The following is from today's Washington Post. I agree with every word. I've never tried pot, even though I've been told it helps relieve eye pressure, a major cause of glaucoma (which I have). Someone I used to know suggested I try it, offered to get some for me, but I asked a trusted friend if I should, and after a quiet pause he said, "Not unless you want to get high." I didn't, but do remember writing on the old 4S that I thought it should be legalized for adults. I still do, but how do you keep it out of the hands of children and teenagers?
Not long after that I became personally involved with a young person who was a user, and have since completely reversed my way of thinking. People -- adults -- who want to use it recreationally or for medicinal purposes (prescribed by doctors) fine with me. But stop legalizing it. Keep it away from children and teenagers. The human brain does not fully mature until about age 25. Trying to convert, keep up with or even have a normal conversation with a young person who is using pot and whose goal is to stay high as much and as long as possible is almost impossible. :confused: >:(
A SCIENTIST'S VIEW OF POT MYTHS
Ruth Marcus is a columnist and editorial writer for The Post, specializing in American politics and domestic policy.
June 24, 2014, at 8:37 PM
From her perch as head of the National Institute on Drug Abuse in Bethesda, Nora Volkow watches anxiously as the country embarks on what she sees as a risky social experiment in legalizing marijuana.
For those who argue that marijuana is no more dangerous than tobacco and alcohol, Volkow has two main answers: We don't entirely know , and, simultaneously, that is precisely the point .
"Look at the evidence," Volkow said in an interview on the National Institutes of Health campus, pointing to the harms already inflicted by tobacco and alcohol. "It's not subtle — it's huge. Legal drugs are the main problem that we have in our country as it relates to morbidity and mortality. By far. Many more people die of tobacco than all of the drugs together. Many more people die of alcohol than all of the illicit drugs together.
"And it's not because they are more dangerous or addictive. Not at all — they are less dangerous. It's because they are legal. . . . The legalization process generates a much greater exposure of people and hence of negative consequences that will emerge. And that's why I always say, 'Can we as a country afford to have a third legal drug? Can we?' We know the costs already on health care, we know the costs on accidents, on lost productivity. I let the numbers speak for themselves."
Volkow speaks rapidly, even urgently, in an accent that lingers from her childhood in Mexico. The great-granddaughter of Soviet communist Leon Trotsky, Volkow grew up in the Mexico City home where Trotsky was fatally attacked. It is easy to imagine, in her passionate determination, some of her ancestor's revolutionary fervor, melded with a scientist's evidentiary rigor.
In this June 19, 2014 photo, freshly packaged cannabis-infused peanut butter cookies are prepared for casing, inside Sweet Grass Kitchen, a well-established gourmet marijuana edibles bakery which sells its confections to retail outlets, in Denver.
(Brennan Linsley/AP)
As Colorado and Washington state approve the sale of marijuana for recreational use and other states consider following suit, Volkow says, the notion that legalization represents a modest, cost-free move is dangerously overblown. The evidence on the supposed safety of marijuana — particularly marijuana in its modern, far more potent form — is far from clear enough to take this leap.
"I think that what we are seeing is a little bit of wishful thinking in the sense that we want to have a drug that will make us all feel good and believe that there are no harmful consequences," she said. "When you are intoxicated, your memory and learning are going to go down. When you are intoxicated, your motor coordination is going to go down. When you are repeatedly using marijuana, there is an increased risk for addiction. And if you are an adolescent and you are taking marijuana, there is a higher increased risk for addiction and there is also a higher risk for long-lasting decreases in cognitive capacity — that is, lowering of IQ."
Adolescents are a chief focus of Volkow's worry, to the extent that when I observe that tobacco use is clearly worse for teens, she challenges that easy assumption.
"Wait a second. . . . Nicotine does not interfere with cognitive ability. So if you are an adolescent and you are smoking marijuana and going to school, it's going to interfere with your capacity to learn. So what is worse, as an adolescent right now? To have basically something that is jeopardizing your development educationally or to smoke a cigarette that, when you are 60 years of age, is going to lead to impaired pulmonary function and perhaps cancer? . . . I would argue that you do not want to mess with your cognitive capacity, that that is a very large price to pay."
Legalization advocates counter with two contradictory arguments: that marijuana is already readily available to teenagers who want it, and that the new laws impose strict controls on sales to minors. Volkow is unconvinced, arguing that the evidence from alcohol suggests that the already large number of teenagers who have tried marijuana by the time they graduate from high school — nearly half, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention — will only increase, along with the already rising number of those who use it on a daily basis.
"Our kids are sensitive to norms, so if they feel that marijuana is harmful, their consumption goes down," Volkow said. Legalization sends the opposite message.
Volkow herself has never smoked pot — or, as she tends to say, "taken marijuana" — and she isn't tempted now that it is legally available in some places. "I'm not going to negate that I am curious," she said. "But I am terrified about doing anything that would interfere with my cognitive capacity. . . . I don't like to contaminate my perception of the world. I have too much respect for my brain."
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I totally disagree.
Ms. Volkow says this about nicotine and alcohol ...
"And it's not because they are more dangerous or addictive. Not at all — they are less dangerous. It's because they are legal."
Nicotine is most definitely addictive. And it does kill. The same for alcohol. And although alcohol may not be addictive for most people, it most certainly can kill you.
I have NEVER seen any evidence that marijuana is addictive, and I have never seen any evidence that it can kill.
Unlike tobacco, marijuana does not kill the user. Unlike alcohol, marijuana does not destroy the liver and brain. There is anecdotal evidence of people using marijuana relationally for decades and remaining healthy, active citizens.
Myself included!
I agree with Bo D; this article is absolute bullshit.
Quote from: Exterminator on June 25, 2014, 01:21:41 PM
I agree with Bo D; this article is absolute bullshit.
You can talk about Nicotine and Marijuana all you want, but there is one thing that has destroyed more men's lives than anything else. :yes: :grin2:
:slap: :gorgeous: WOMEN :gorgeous: :slap:
:trustme: :tiphat:
OK, let's say Volkow is correct - and I am with others that say that Volkow is wrong and simply cherry picking and engaging in anti 'drug' propaganda - and let's go farther and say good ole' Mary Jane is the worst thing ever to come down the pike.
What authority does the government, or anyone, have to proscribe what another person what s/he can or cannot ingest?
In case you're having trouble coming up with an answer, I'll help you out. The answer is none.
Now what I'd like to know, is how many folks agree with that answer, know that it's correct, and what its basis is?
I know for a fact that our government has better things to do than tell us what we can and cannot put into our bodies.
I agree with the article, if for no other reason that legalizing Marijuana makes it more easily available to teens and children. I think that marijuana is a gateway drug and only helps push some people along the way to addiction. I don't think it cures cancer as I have been told by some users of marijuana. Dealing with someone using marijuana is as bad as dealing with a non-combative drunk. They don't realize how stupid the look and act, at least in my experience. As far as the government having the right to tell us what we can and cannot put into our bodies, that is bs. Every single thing we put into our bodies is regulated by the government and heaven help them if they get it wrong.
Ah! The old "it's for the children!" defense along side the 'Gateway' defense.
First, the 'children' defense is one of those things like sex etc. I call 'you can't fool Mother Nature' issues. Laws haven't stopped 'children' from ingesting Mary Jane and won't. You can't stop human nature.
Second, if it's a 'gateway' so what? By what authority do you, government, or anyone else, have the right to proscribe that someone can't harm or destroy him/herself?
Y, I am so glad to see you back here posting. :smile:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 18, 2014, 10:22:22 AM
I know for a fact that our government has better things to do than tell us what we can and cannot put into our bodies.
But hardly as profitable - from local all the way to national.
Of course, I suspect your unspoken areas which you comment takes in. I'll address them when I get back. I have things to do and I'll try and get back here later today.
Quote from: Anne on August 18, 2014, 10:50:13 AM
I agree with the article, if for no other reason that legalizing Marijuana makes it more easily available to teens and children. I think that marijuana is a gateway drug and only helps push some people along the way to addiction. I don't think it cures cancer as I have been told by some users of marijuana. Dealing with someone using marijuana is as bad as dealing with a non-combative drunk. They don't realize how stupid the look and act, at least in my experience. As far as the government having the right to tell us what we can and cannot put into our bodies, that is bs. Every single thing we put into our bodies is regulated by the government and heaven help them if they get it wrong.
I have NEVER heard event the staunchest supporter/user of marijuana claim that it "cures cancer."
What it does do is relieve pain and stimulates the appetite when nothing else works for cancer sufferers undergoing chemo.
Oh, really, well I have and they were entirely convinced of it. I have read the reports of its pain relief and if it is prescribed by a doctor for that ok. If they want to legalize, then the rest of us have to be prepared to deal with the consequences. I hope everyone is prepared for that. I"m sure there are people like BoD who never used marijuana when he was responsible for anyone but himself, never drove, never did anything that might endanger anyone when he was indulging, but the majority of people are not like that.
As for the children, as Y puts it, yes, if it is in the house it is accessable to children. If you think it is ok for a 10 year old, great, I don't. And the idea of putting it in food is horrible.
Quote from: Anne on August 18, 2014, 02:19:37 PM
Oh, really, well I have and they were entirely convinced of it. I have read the reports of its pain relief and if it is prescribed by a doctor for that ok. If they want to legalize, then the rest of us have to be prepared to deal with the consequences. I hope everyone is prepared for that. I"m sure there are people like BoD who never used marijuana when he was responsible for anyone but himself, never drove, never did anything that might endanger anyone when he was indulging, but the majority of people are not like that.
As for the children, as Y puts it, yes, if it is in the house it is accessable to children. If you think it is ok for a 10 year old, great, I don't. And the idea of putting it in food is horrible.
What do you think about the most dangerous drug of all - alcohol?
It's in the home, accessible to children, and we put it in food - even candy.
At some point you have to be responsible for your own actions.
Quote from: Bo D on August 18, 2014, 03:14:48 PM
What do you think about the most dangerous drug of all - alcohol?
It's in the home, accessible to children, and we put it in food - even candy.
At some point you have to be responsible for your own actions.
Anne, I gotta side with Bo on this....and his last line is the real kicker for all of this. Parents need to be parents, and set examples for their kids. We would probably not have HALF the problems we have today if we all stuck to that idea.
Quote from: Anne on August 18, 2014, 02:19:37 PM
Oh, really, well I have and they were entirely convinced of it. I have read the reports of its pain relief and if it is prescribed by a doctor for that ok. If they want to legalize, then the rest of us have to be prepared to deal with the consequences. I hope everyone is prepared for that. I"m sure there are people like BoD who never used marijuana when he was responsible for anyone but himself, never drove, never did anything that might endanger anyone when he was indulging, but the majority of people are not like that.
As for the children, as Y puts it, yes, if it is in the house it is accessable to children. If you think it is ok for a 10 year old, great, I don't. And the idea of putting it in food is horrible.
Yes Anne, you're one of them old pinch faced, nose up in the air old woman. Who would stop drinking all Alcohol, smoking everything, all kinds of gambling and to have people to pray and give their 10% of the gross of their income to the church and put your nose in all of the bedrooms and in a woman's reproductive life. :rolleyes: :razz: :rant:
Heck caffeine is the devil's drug. I think we should ban it 'cause it is indeed a gateway drug and dangerous to society.
Best regards,
Duke (needin' a cup of coffee ) Jupiter
Quote from: duke jupiter on August 18, 2014, 06:33:29 PM
Heck caffeine is the devil's drug. I think we should ban it 'cause it is indeed a gateway drug and dangerous to society.
Best regards,
Duke (needin' a cup of coffee ) Jupiter
You know of another "drug choice" SUGAR! Sugar is a new chemical on the evolution of man. The only sweet in the days of old was honey which is sugar and nobody raised bee in any amount. If you didn't have bees or sorghum you didn't have anything sweet and you didn't have fat kids. :yes:
Tooth decay and obesity wasn't common like it is today. :yes:
Quote from: Bo D on August 18, 2014, 03:14:48 PM
What do you think about the most dangerous drug of all - alcohol?
It's in the home, accessible to children, and we put it in food - even candy.
At some point you have to be responsible for your own actions.
Yes, alcohol is a dangerous drug, it is widely available and when marijuana becomes as widely available and as cheap it will be an even more dangerous drug that it is now. Yes, we do need to be responsible as parents, but I would hope most parents, if they drink have enough sense to do it when children are not present or when other adults are around to be responsible for those kids. That doesn't always happen, I know, but it should. What kind of example are people setting for their children when a person indulge theirself by smoking or consuming marijuana or drinking and then driving, both of which are clearly against the law? Putting any drug into food, especially food children pick up, candy, cookies, etc., is a bad thing, too hard to control. I don't have a problem with having a drink or two occasionally, even daily. I do have a problem with people who think that because they think a law is a bad law they don't have to obey it and pass that attitude on to their children.
Quote from: The Troll on August 18, 2014, 06:56:35 PM
You know of another "drug choice" SUGAR! Sugar is a new chemical on the evolution of man. The only sweet in the days of old was honey which is sugar and nobody raised bee in any amount. If you didn't have bees or sorghum you didn't have anything sweet and you didn't have fat kids. :yes:
Tooth decay and obesity wasn't common like it is today. :yes:
okay Troll, like normal you are just blowing off.......SUGAR is NOT a drug. It has been around for 1000's of years. Tooth decay is not nearly as bad as it was just a few decades ago. People can brush their teeth as often as the want, go to the dentist and have them cleaned and repaired.
We have fat kids because they don't go out and play like we had to do when we were young.
Quote from: Anne on August 18, 2014, 10:50:13 AM
I agree with the article, if for no other reason that legalizing Marijuana makes it more easily available to teens and children. I think that marijuana is a gateway drug and only helps push some people along the way to addiction. I don't think it cures cancer as I have been told by some users of marijuana. Dealing with someone using marijuana is as bad as dealing with a non-combative drunk. They don't realize how stupid the look and act, at least in my experience. As far as the government having the right to tell us what we can and cannot put into our bodies, that is bs. Every single thing we put into our bodies is regulated by the government and heaven help them if they get it wrong.
Could you have fit any more propaganda-fueled myths into a single post? :rolleyes:
Quote from: Exterminator on August 19, 2014, 12:40:24 PM
Could you have fit any more propaganda-fueled myths into a single post? :rolleyes:
Doin' some more of that creative thinking again are ya Ex? Oh wait, you call it critical thinking.
Somebody watched Reefer Madness and took it to heart.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 19, 2014, 11:17:52 AM
okay Troll, like normal you are just blowing off.......SUGAR is NOT a drug. It has been around for 1000's of years. Tooth decay is not nearly as bad as it was just a few decades ago. People can brush their teeth as often as the want, go to the dentist and have them cleaned and repaired.
We have fat kids because they don't go out and play like we had to do when we were young.
Dumbass couldn't you see I was just playing with the word "drug" "sugar". :dam:
Tell me "Brain" notice how I am playing with the word "Brain" when I am talking about you: :grin2:
"Brain" please tell me where the sugar came from and how did they refine it a thousand years ago. I really would like to know. :dizzy2: :wacko: :thubb:
Quote from: Bo D on August 19, 2014, 02:23:14 PM
Somebody watched Reefer Madness and took it to heart.
Exactly. . . :yes:
Personally I don't see the attraction to it and, to me, there is just no thrill in being high. To each his own I guess but I really wouldn't want to see a bunch of drivers high on pot out driving, especially on the interstate. Yes, I drink, maybe 2 or 3 times a year but only because I like the taste and most normally no more than 2 drinks or a beer.
Quote from: me on August 19, 2014, 06:42:17 PM
Personally I don't see the attraction to it and, to me, there is just no thrill in being high. To each his own I guess but I really wouldn't want to see a bunch of drivers high on pot out driving, especially on the interstate. Yes, I drink, maybe 2 or 3 times a year but only because I like the taste and most normally no more than 2 drinks or a beer.
2 drinks = 5 joints
Best regards,
Duke ( cause and effect) Jupiter
Quote from: duke jupiter on August 19, 2014, 09:15:34 PM
2 drinks = 5 joints
Best regards,
Duke ( cause and effect) Jupiter
And I don't like that feeling even though I like the taste of the liquor which is why I don't drink anymore than I do and I very seldom have more than one 'cause, bad as I hate to admit it, I'm a light weight.
Quote from: me on August 19, 2014, 06:42:17 PM
I really wouldn't want to see a bunch of drivers high on pot out driving, especially on the interstate.
Yeah ... coming up on a stoned driver doing 5 mph on the interstate is no fun. :biggrin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8pEKwVl9tA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8pEKwVl9tA)
Quote from: Bo D on August 20, 2014, 09:40:09 AM
Yeah ... coming up on a stoned driver doing 5 mph on the interstate is no fun. :biggrin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8pEKwVl9tA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8pEKwVl9tA)
Loved that movie. :rotfl:
Quote from: me on August 19, 2014, 12:50:31 PM
Doin' some more of that creative thinking again are ya Ex? Oh wait, you call it critical thinking.
Never let science or facts get in the way of your ignorance.
Quote from: me on August 19, 2014, 11:01:15 PM
And I don't like that feeling even though I like the taste of the liquor which is why I don't drink anymore than I do and I very seldom have more than one 'cause, bad as I hate to admit it, I'm a light weight.
Well heck since by your own admission you ain't too dadburn experienced you really don't qualify to comment on the partakin' of the ganja.
Best regards,
Duke (just give me cough syrup, caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, sleepin' pills, prescription drugs etc) Jupiter
ps but whatever you do don't touch the devil's weed
Quote from: duke jupiter on August 20, 2014, 08:09:47 PM
Well heck since by your own admission you ain't too dadburn experienced you really don't qualify to comment on the partakin' of the ganja.
Best regards,
Duke (just give me cough syrup, caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, sleepin' pills, prescription drugs etc) Jupiter
ps but whatever you do don't touch the devil's weed
Experienced enough to know I'm not particularly fond of the feeling you get from a high. I'm naturally laid back and relaxed anyway so that may be why, who knows. :wink:
Quote from: duke jupiter on August 20, 2014, 08:09:47 PM
Well heck since by your own admission you ain't too dadburn experienced you really don't qualify to comment on the partakin' of the ganja.
Best regards,
Duke (just give me cough syrup, caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, sleepin' pills, prescription drugs etc) Jupiter
ps but whatever you do don't touch the devil's weed
Hey, Duke :smile: You can't fool me. You're doin' some undercover work for Klaatu right now would be my guess. :sneaky: :dark:
libby
Quote from: Bo D on August 19, 2014, 02:23:14 PM
Somebody watched Reefer Madness and took it to heart.
If that comment was directed at me, I don't know what Reefer Madness is. I am guessing it is a movie. My opinions about marijuana use is based on my experiences with people I have delt with who routinely 'indulge'. I see the effects it has on their children and the cost to the community. Oh, and if you google marijuana cancer cure you will find a few articles about marijuana supposedly curing cancer.
Quote from: Anne on August 21, 2014, 08:41:45 PM
If that comment was directed at me, I don't know what Reefer Madness is. I am guessing it is a movie. My opinions about marijuana use is based on my experiences with people I have delt with who routinely 'indulge'. I see the effects it has on their children and the cost to the community. Oh, and if you google marijuana cancer cure you will find a few articles about marijuana supposedly curing cancer.
Sure, sure. And if you seen it on the internets it has to be true!
Quote from: Bo D on August 22, 2014, 09:55:51 AM
Sure, sure. And if you seen it on the internets it has to be true!
I didn't say it was true, I said I had been told that by more than a few people who indulge themselves. You said you had never heard that. I suggested you look it up. Saw or see - not seen.
Quote from: Anne on August 22, 2014, 11:29:19 AM
I didn't say it was true, I said I had been told that by more than a few people who indulge themselves. You said you had never heard that. I suggested you look it up. Saw or see - not seen.
That was intentional :sa:
Quote from: Anne on August 21, 2014, 08:41:45 PM
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Oh, and if you google marijuana cancer cure you will find a few articles about marijuana supposedly curing cancer.
Well, well! There may be something to this after all! I did as you suggested and lookie what I found! :biggrin:
The main psychoactive ingredient in cannabis - tetrahydrocannabinol - could be used to reduce tumor growth in cancer patients, according to an international research team.
Previous studies have suggested that cannabinoids, of which tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is one, have anti-cancer properties. In 2009, researchers at Complutense University in Spain found that THC induced the death of brain cancer cells in a process known as "autophagy."
When human tumors in mice were targeted with doses of THC, the researchers found that two cell receptors were particularly associated with an anti-tumor response.
The researchers found that administering THC to mice with human tumors initiated autophagy and caused the growth of the tumors to decrease. Two human patients with highly aggressive brain tumors who received intracranial administration of THC also showed similar signs of autophagy, upon analysis.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/279571.php (http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/279571.php)
Now in case you're wondering (as I did) how reputable is this web site ....
Medical News Today is a web-based outlet for medical news, targeted to both physicians and the general public. The site was launched in 2003 and reports monthly readership of over 8 million unique visitors.[1] All posted content is available on-line (>250,000 articles as of January 2014) and the earliest available article item is dated from May 2003.
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So ... there you have it! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
So now you have heard about marijuana curing cancer, you learn something new every day! :) Needs more testing, but we shall see. I wonder if the subjects smoked the marijuana (not the mice!) or if it was ingredient was isolated and purified and injected. A little different from smoking if that was the case.
Quote from: me on August 20, 2014, 09:24:43 PM
Experienced enough to know I'm not particularly fond of the feeling you get from a high. I'm naturally laid back and relaxed anyway so that may be why, who knows. :wink:
Heck you are one of the few lucky whom has the so called "natural high". Good for you some of us other folks need other vices rather it be food, sex, caffeine, sugar, ghanja, alcohol, drugs of the prescription type, talk forums, religion, political views, conversation, motorcycles, space exploration, wars, money, power, steroids, etc.
Best regards,
Duke (high but not always natural) Jupiter ;)
Quote from: duke jupiter on August 23, 2014, 09:04:49 PM
Heck you are one of the few lucky whom has the so called "natural high". Good for you some of us other folks need other vices rather it be food, sex, caffeine, sugar, ghanja, alcohol, drugs of the prescription type, talk forums, religion, political views, conversation, motorcycles, space exploration, wars, money, power, steroids, etc.
Best regards,
Duke (high but not always natural) Jupiter ;)
I'm a music junky, different types for different moods and different volumes also, but it always works. :)
A serious note. I have done some thinking since I posted this topic and said I agreed with every word.
The DEA and other federal and state officials who regulate and enforce controlled substances have a bit of a problem on their hands. They probably should take marijuana off the list but forbid sale to minors. Why? Marijuana shows up on drug tests administered by businesses, the military, and the federal government. And that, ironically enough, has caused users -- who want a job or to join the military but don't want to give up pot -- to move to Synthetic Marijuana (pep spice) because it doesn't show up on the drug tests.
This is what I know from personal experience (observation, not use) about Synthetic Marijuana (pep spice): It's addictive. Stopping it cold turkey is BAD :eek: :spooked: :rant: :icon_evil:
Quote from: me on August 23, 2014, 11:05:38 PM
I'm a music junky, different types for different moods and different volumes also, but it always works. :)
Ah! Music the great equalizer and indeed can cause a natural high.
:win:
Best regards,
Duke (high on the tunes) Jupiter
Quote from: duke jupiter on August 24, 2014, 01:35:53 PM
Ah! Music the great equalizer and indeed can cause a natural high.
:win:
Best regards,
Duke (high on the tunes) Jupiter
:smile:
Quote from: me on August 24, 2014, 03:47:10 PM
:smile:
Awwww! They can't make the "weed" legal. :no: Just think how much fun you would take from the cops :police: and judges :smash: putting people in jail and prison. :yes: :wink:
Quote from: Anne on August 23, 2014, 04:16:16 PM
So now you have heard about marijuana curing cancer, you learn something new every day! :) Needs more testing, but we shall see. I wonder if the subjects smoked the marijuana (not the mice!) or if it was ingredient was isolated and purified and injected. A little different from smoking if that was the case.
I'd trust Marijuana to cure cancer before I would believe in prayer :pray: to god to cure cancer. :trustme:
Look what's in the Washington Post late news today!
Thursday, March 26 2015
D.C. Politics
D.C. is about to host the nation's biggest, legal, marijuana giveaway
By Aaron C. Davis March 26 at 9:27 AM
The District is about to witness a massive, public drug deal on Thursday — and for those involved, it will be quite a bargain.
Over 800 people have confirmed attendance at a giveaway of marijuana seeds Thursday night at an Adams Morgan restaurant. The event appears unprecedented and likely to scatter the makings of more than 16,000 marijuana plants across the nation's capital.
D.C. police plan to stay clear of the spectacle — except to direct traffic, if needed.
Organizers, meanwhile, say they hope to launch a wave of home growth and use of pot so D.C. residents can take advantage of a ballot measure approved by voters last fall that legalized possession of the plant.
The District is unique among states where possession and use have become legal, because sales remain against the law. That's one reason that a seed giveaway — and not an opening of stores for legal sales, as has happened in Colorado and Washington state — is marking the kickoff.
Adam Eidinger, chair of the DC Cannabis Campaign, smokes a joint on February 26, 2015, on the first full day of marijuana legalization in Washington. (Robert Macpherson/AFP/Getty Images)
Under a prohibition placed on the District by Congress, buying and selling marijuana in the capital city remains illegal. Sharing, carrying, growing and smoking, at least out of public view, are allowed.
Thanks to Congress, the District also has no ability to track the seedlings that could come from Thursday's event and are expected to feed a gray market for bartering and other attempts to profit off legalization.
In Colorado, every marijuana seedling raised for the commercial sale of pot is tracked with a 24-digit radio frequency identification tag. Sales are heavily taxed by the state, and the money goes mostly to education. In the District, thousands of plants could soon begin growing with no such oversight or benefit to the city.
Proponents of the ballot measure counter that a crop from amateur growers could increase supply and drive down the market for illegal street sales.
Home growth was also clearly part of the ballot measure, known as Initiative 71, that voters approved in November. The measure allowed for home cultivation of six seedlings per person, with three mature plants allowable at any one time. The limit per household is 12 plants.
Growing pot in publicly subsidized housing complexes remains illegal in the city under federal law.
"Home growth is what 70 percent of voters approved," said Adam Eidinger, head of the D.C. Cannabis Campaign. Eidinger predicted a festive scene Thursday, as well as at a second seed giveaway that the campaign is hosting on Saturday. "It's going to be a carnival," he said.
Animal-rights protesters, pizza trucks and politicians are expected Thursday evening at the seed giveaway in the Northwest neighborhood of Adams Morgan.
The event is being hosted at Libertine bar and restaurant. Eidinger said about 45 people have agreed to bring seeds to share. Thousands have already been divvied up by different genetic strands into bags of 10 to 20 seeds each. The seeds will be arrayed on tables on the bar's second floor, and a line will form outside to cycle through and take a share.
While the event marks the beginning of public use of Initiative 71, it also amounts to the curtain call for the successful campaign pushed by Eidinger and other hard-core advocates for marijuana legalization in the District.
Under city election laws, the campaign must disband this spring and may no longer organize public events. Eidinger said he wishes it could remain intact to continue defending the law to critics. But Eidinger plans to form a new community group to continue promoting safe marijuana use, and he will continue to press members of Congress to allow the city to set up a system to tax and regulate pot like other states.
Of the seed giveaway, "Once the campaign is over, we won't be doing this every year," Eidinger said. "This is a one-time deal."
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Now why can't they do that with tobacco so people could grown their own and have pure tobacco for their cigaretts rather than having to buy the ones with all the added crap?
Quote from: me on March 26, 2015, 03:25:07 PM
Now why can't they do that with tobacco so people could grown their own and have pure tobacco for their cigaretts rather than having to buy the ones with all the added crap?
You have always had access to tobacco seeds ... cheap! :rolleyes:
Over 158 varieties of tobacco seed starting at $1.99
http://sustainableseedco.com/tobacco-seeds/ (http://sustainableseedco.com/tobacco-seeds/)