http://www.wthr.com/story/25569652/2014/05/20/student-turns-to-internet-to-raise-money-for-college-tuition-because-of-indiana-law (http://www.wthr.com/story/25569652/2014/05/20/student-turns-to-internet-to-raise-money-for-college-tuition-because-of-indiana-law)
So an honor student in Indiana, graduating this year and wanting to go to Ball State, has lived here her whole life. Ball State wants to charge her out of state tuition rates. Why? Because her parents came here illegally when she was a baby.
Commentary on this story has gone from ugly to disgusting, and I weighed in with my own opinion; which I will gladly share here.
I see all sides of this situation, so let me say this:
". . ."Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
This is on display at the feet of the statue of Liberty, and it guided this nation through some tumultuous times. If this day, we no longer endorse these words, nor their meaning and intention, then let us remove these words from the feet of this light of the world, and embrace the darkness that ignorance harbors the arrival of.
Have we, as a nation, become that which those famous words take to task?
To which I received the following reply:
I also see this from all sides, and I think this statement still holds true. You just have people who want to circumvent the rules because their special circumstance. If you want to come to this country please just do it the way every immigrant has done before you.
I beg to differ. Not only does the New Colossus no longer hold true, the commentary on this story validates that it no longer applies to the majority of citizens in central Indiana to say the least.
I replied with the following:
And yet this day, how many of us reading this hail from an ancestry that follows a similar path?
We attempt to hold her accountable for that which she did not choose in the beginning. Moreover, how many of us take for granted our citizenship? How many reading this could successfully navigate the path toward citizenship in this nation today, even with a US education?
How many of us would "put it off" until we absolutely had to do it? (As this young woman finds herself today).
Lastly, if after viewing this piece that WTHR aired, and seeing the promising future this well spoken and bright young woman represents, we choose to turn her away, deport her, or (fill in your solution here), what person do we choose to accept in her stead?
Life does not fit the cookie cutter world and legal solutions humankind wishes it to. Yes, there is a path, and yes she should have / should pursue it.
There was a time when the exception proved the rule in this nation. Are we now that overbearing?
In my mind we have allowed political rancor of nefarious intent, to cloud our sight and harden the collective heart of this nation, to the point wherein the very world the sonnet by American poet Emma Lazarus, written in 1883 and entitled "The New Colossus" , thumbed its nose at , has become us!
There is no quarter given. Ever.
We should remove that plaque from the feet of the statue of Liberty, for it has become a lie and no longer is it an accurate representation of this nation and its collective citizens.
That's my position.
It is accurate if a person wants to come here and do it the correct way. It does not say we will give you free medical care and more and better benefits than the citizens who have worked and paid into the system get. As far as the Ball State thing is concerned that is wrong on many levels but that's business as usual for anything with the name "Ball" attached to it in Muncie which is one reason I wouldn't move back to that town.
Why am I not surprised that the only comment to this thread is from someone who has absolutely no idea what she is talking about? Like she ever went to college? Uh, no.
Quote from: me on May 20, 2014, 10:32:37 PM
It is accurate if a person wants to come here and do it the correct way. It does not say we will give you free medical care and more and better benefits than the citizens who have worked and paid into the system get. As far as the Ball State thing is concerned that is wrong on many levels but that's business as usual for anything with the name "Ball" attached to it in Muncie which is one reason I wouldn't move back to that town.
Just where do get the idea that Illegal aliens get all of these free medical and better benefits than poor American citizens? :confused: They don't, Sweet Pea. :no: :no: :no: You got to be watching too much Fox New Channel. :rant:
In Florida, the tomato and Mexican capital of America, I went to a medical clinic where they did a lot of business for and with Mexicans. :yes: The doctor wouldn't take my Medicare card, no cards, no insurance cards, no checks, no credit cards, nothing but CASH! :yes: :mad: :rant: I went to an other medical clinic in Palmetto. :yes: They took my Medicare and Blue Cross cards and my credit card, Visa. :yes: :smile:
The Ball family has spent a lot of money for 'Fruit Jar State' college and Fruit Jar State hospital. :yes: What have you done for Muncie, HoneyPoo. :wink: :smile:
You never lived in Muncie so you have no idea what kind of control they had there. You never spent any time in that poor excuse for a hospital either. Don't even pretend to act like you know about Ball's.
One hospital, big deal. How long ago was that? Go to bed Troll you're up past your bed time.
Quote from: me on May 22, 2014, 12:29:48 AM
You never lived in Muncie so you have no idea what kind of control they had there. You never spent any time in that poor excuse for a hospital either. Don't even pretend to act like you know about Ball's.
One hospital, big deal. How long ago was that? Go to bed Troll you're up past your bed time.
One hospital is better than none, like in Alabama where they are losing them because they won't take ObamaCare, SweetyPie. :rolleyes: :yes: At one time the Church of God ran Anderson and their one Hospital St. Johns was too great either. :rant:
Look I'm up and it's you time to open you mind and let it breath and get some light. :pray: :laugh: Look :sailor: Ball family use to run Muncie and look who we got running the state. :repub: Mikey Pense back to make a run for president of the United States. Look SweetyPie :kick: I try to vote against these fools like Mikey Pense and you vote them in. :haha: :haha: Just think where we would be now if the old fool McCain and dumbass Sarah Palin had been elected and you voted for them. :rant:
At least Anderson has a choice of hospitals.
I am amazed that the Catholic hospital was run by the Church of God! Wonder if the Nuns knew that? :o
Quote from: Anne on May 24, 2014, 12:24:28 PM
I am amazed that the Catholic hospital was run by the Church of God! Wonder if the Nuns knew that? :o
I was sure there were two hospitals here too, St. John's and Community......Oh well, that's Troll for ya..... :wink:
Community opened in the early 60's. St. John's was the only hospital before that unless you count the clinic on the top floor of a building on Meridian St., I forget which building it was. I had my tonsils taken out there in 1952. If I remember correctly, Community was a project of city/county leaders to meet the growing need of an expanding population in Madison County and GM local big wigs would have been a part of that. I worked at both hospitals (Community only briefly) and have been a patient at both hospitals. I think they are both good health care facilities, they both have their strengths and weaknesses. Since they have both been absorbed into larger health care systems I would expect them both to improve even more. Although getting to the ER at St. Vincent's (as the John is now called) is a pain in the b**t with all the construction going on there. Sorry about being long winded.
I guess I didn't realize that since I didn't move to Anderson until the mid 60's and didn't use either hospital until sometime in the 70's so I stand corrected. Ball never would allow any other hospital in Muncie because of the competition and the care was not very good there, I had all 3 kids in that hospital.
Quote from: me on May 24, 2014, 06:30:20 PM
I guess I didn't realize that since I didn't move to Anderson until the mid 60's and didn't use either hospital until sometime in the 70's so I stand corrected. Ball never would allow any other hospital in Muncie because of the competition and the care was not very good there, I had all 3 kids in that hospital.
I didn't mean to lecture, it does seem like Community has been here forever. I haven't had much dealing with Ball Hospital. My daughter worked there for awhile in the radiology department around 2003.
Quote from: Anne on May 24, 2014, 09:30:27 PM
I didn't mean to lecture, it does seem like Community has been here forever. I haven't had much dealing with Ball Hospital. My daughter worked there for awhile in the radiology department around 2003.
Didn't take it as a lecture was glad to get the info actually. :)
Quote from: Anne on May 24, 2014, 12:24:28 PM
I am amazed that the Catholic hospital was run by the Church of God! Wonder if the Nuns knew that? :o
Just when did I say that the Church of God ran a Catholic hospital 'Ann'. :doh: I know that the Church of God and Generals Motors ran Anderson. :yes: And I also know that there were a lot of people who said, "the only way they could get them to go to St. Johns was for them to be unconscious or dead. :wink: :biggrin: Could that be because you worked there. :haha: