This time in Madison County, and Edgewood to be exact.
Sunday, a young married couple on their way home from church, were rear-ended by this off duty Edgewood cop; doing 92 miles an hour and full on plowing their vehicle from the rear on state road 32 just outside of Lapel.
The hit caused the victims vehicle to hit a utility pole, broadside and passenger side first; killing the husband (passenger) and severely injuring the 9 month pregnant wife who was airlifted and had her baby delivered via emergency c-section. Mom and baby are doing okay, but daddy is dead.
The off duty cop was booked for OWI, and has admitted to using Hydrocodone and Xanax.
http://www.wthr.com/story/25216273/2014/04/10/edgewood-officer-charged-in-fatal-crash (http://www.wthr.com/story/25216273/2014/04/10/edgewood-officer-charged-in-fatal-crash)
He was officially charged today with:
Ct-1 Operating While Intoxicated Causing Death, I.C. Code 9-30-5-5, as a Class B Felony (Causing death of another person to wit Jesse Sperry)
Ct-2 Operating While Intoxicated Causing Serious Bodily Injury, I.C. Code 9-30-5-4, as a Class D Felony. (Causing serious bodily injury to another person to wit Rebecca Sperry)
Ct-3 Reckless Driving, I.C. Code 9-21-8-52, as a Class A Misdemeanor.
The Madison County Prosecutor also has added the charge of Reckless Homicide as a Class C Felony, I.C. 35-42-1-5.
What you will not read in this story:
My wife and I babysat our grandson on Saturday night, overnight, so our daughter and her husband could attend a memorial race for their late friend who had passed away unexpectedly a few weeks ago. Our daughter is pregnant and due in August, but despite feeling exhausted by the events activities, agreed to go along with the group of friends to a "new" local lounge for a toast in his honor.
This "new" lounge is currently being referred to as the "New Ramada Inn", after a now defunct and torn down hotels former bar that the areas young and rambunctious crowd used to frequent. It is owned and operated by the former owner of the Ramada Inn, and like the former Ramada Inns Lounge, it hires a certain off duty police officer to act as security into the wee hours. That "officer" is none other than James Foutch, and he was still at that bar at 4:00am when my daughter, her husband, and their party left the establishment. And he was very much under the influence at that time.
Most of the crowd knew him and were friendly with him, since he represented the power to toss them out, as well as the law.
So it was no surprise to our daughter that he was the one who had caused this horrific accident. . . I wonder if anyone has dropped the tip line any of this information???? :mad:
Wow, that is all I can say about!! He would have been fired from his job as a police officer here before he could blink well!!
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Here's a photo of the vehicle he hit and where it came to rest. Easy to see how daddy died. . .
The scumbag is out on bail too.
Had that been any one of us, we'd be rotting UNDER the jail! :rant:
Yeah, we would be. It never ceases to amaze me how stupid people are. >:(
Quote from: Purplelady1040 on April 10, 2014, 07:33:44 PM
Yeah, we would be. It never ceases to amaze me how stupid people are. >:(
I wonder how many people he arrested for drugs, drinking and speeding through Edgewood. :rant: Going through Edgewood is like going through a Indian gantlet when it comes to being stopped for nothing. :rant: Yes we are beginning to live in a police state. :trustme:
The only problem with cops like him is that he gives good cops a bad name. My ex brother in law is a retired drug detective and was one of the good cops. I know a lot of good cops but it only takes one bad apple to spoil the whole bunch. :yes:
Law enforcement is a topic that needs real discussion and not puerile back and forth name calling. I know I'm not here much anymore, and I hate to drop by and feel the need to act like mom telling the kids to behave but really, hasn't this topic jumped completely off the rails?
If any of the old Anderson, IN folk remember, Don Carter, myself, and another friend who has since died worked hard to get a Citizen's Review Board instituted in Anderson.
Do you know who resisted us the most? The officers themselves, put up an horrendous fight against it and were ultimately mainly successful. There remains no real Citizen Review Board today. I had numerous friends on the force and lost several of them because I find a CRB to be an integral part of law enforcement.
I think it's obvious that when you put power in the hands of a few, especially the power of life and death, there has to, and must, be direct public oversight of that power. We know from experience that power tends to corrupt, and that there are certain undesirable personality traits which lend themselves to the LEO occupation.
Quote from: Y on April 22, 2014, 03:20:13 PM
Law enforcement is a topic that needs real discussion and not puerile back and forth name calling. I know I'm not here much anymore, and I hate to drop by and feel the need to act like mom telling the kids to behave but really, hasn't this topic jumped completely off the rails?
If any of the old Anderson, IN folk remember, Don Carter, myself, and another friend who has since died worked hard to get a Citizen's Review Board instituted in Anderson.
Do you know who resisted us the most? The officers themselves, put up an horrendous fight against it and were ultimately mainly successful. There remains no real Citizen Review Board today. I had numerous friends on the force and lost several of them because I find a CRB to be an integral part of law enforcement.
I think it's obvious that when you put power in the hands of a few, especially the power of life and death, there has to, and must, be direct public oversight of that power. We know from experience that power tends to corrupt, and that there are certain undesirable personality traits which lend themselves to the LEO occupation.
I for one would welcome a citizens review board. I think it is desperately needed if for no other reason than to give those who hold "power" a reason to think again before they abuse it.
Certainly what exists now in the city of Anderson is not doing the job, and I'll use former officer Lincoln Brooks as an example of this. He was allowed to run roughshod over the citizens of this city before finally going too far and abusing his power within his personal life. Had a citizens review board been present, I am thinking that he may have been forced to take advantage of help to avoid things going that far.
Instead it seems the "powers that be" feel alright in just sweeping things under the rug until they get so large that they start tripping people.
That is unacceptable to me.
They have a citizen's review where I live in Ky. It has proved to be very beneficial.
On a different note- what the hell is a Lair and how does a person become one. I guess Troll is another dumbass idiot. Hahahaha
Quote from: Palehorse on April 22, 2014, 04:55:16 PM
I for one would welcome a citizens review board. I think it is desperately needed if for no other reason than to give those who hold "power" a reason to think again before they abuse it.
Certainly what exists now in the city of Anderson is not doing the job, and I'll use former officer Lincoln Brooks as an example of this. He was allowed to run roughshod over the citizens of this city before finally going too far and abusing his power within his personal life. Had a citizens review board been present, I am thinking that he may have been forced to take advantage of help to avoid things going that far.
Instead it seems the "powers that be" feel alright in just sweeping things under the rug until they get so large that they start tripping people.
That is unacceptable to me.
Unfortunately, examples like Brooks have been all too common in most municipalities in Madison Co. - and if anyone has been keeping up on statewide news, they are becoming more and more common across the state.
That's why your Edgewood officer story didn't surprise me - Edgewood has a long and corrupt history.
A CRB is essential to proper law enforcement - and also to slow/stop the movement of law enforcement into paramilitary forces. The military mindset that is infiltrating law enforcement is the antithesis of what we need out of law enforcement.
Quote from: Purplelady1040 on April 22, 2014, 04:58:54 PM
They have a citizen's review where I live in Ky. It has proved to be very beneficial.
Is it a fully autonomous fully citizen board equipped with full oversight powers?
Quote from: Purplelady1040 on April 22, 2014, 04:58:54 PMOn a different note- what the hell is a Lair and how does a person become one. I guess Troll is another dumbass idiot. Hahahaha
:rolleyes:
Quote from: Y on April 22, 2014, 05:26:16 PM
Is it a fully autonomous fully citizen board equipped with full oversight powers?
That I am not sure of Y, I just know they have one and it probably is one of those cases where it is who you are and who you know that gets you on that board. I will see if I can find out more and let you know.
I'd greatly appreciate it, PL. Thanx!
I will just call some of those "scumbag" cops that I know who are pretty decent officers and they will tell me about it.
Hey, Y!!
I contacted some of the police officers that I know specifically the chief of police and the sheriff plus some regular officers who drive patrol cars and some detectives to ask them about the citizen's review board. The answer I got was they just hear the complaints that say Jon Q. Citizen lodges against an officer or deputy and that is about it. If they feel it is something of merit, they contact Internal Affairs of the law agency but besides they are a nothing body. I kind of figured it was but thought I would check into it for you and see. Not sure if that is the answer you are looking for but at least they listen to complaints and that it is turned over to the Internal Affairs if warranted.
TYVM!
I assumed it wasn't much of citizen oversight. I don't care how many good LEO's there are, I've yet to come across ANY who want a true Citizen's Review Board.
Now back to the topic:
The blood test results are back and this idiot was high on the very drugs alleged.
He's toast. . . And the local media is playing it up to the hilt by publicizing the progress of the wife and newborn; going as far as reproducing mom's Facebook postings. . .
They'll put this guy UNDER the jail. :yes:
I sincerely hope someone lets the grieving wife and her attorney know about the club, that the officer was also employed by the club, and was getting wasted at said club - possibly even with said club's approval and aid. Said club appears to bear some responsibility here, IMHO.
Quote from: Y on April 29, 2014, 09:30:02 PM
I sincerely hope someone lets the grieving wife and her attorney know about the club, that the officer was also employed by the club, and was getting wasted at said club - possibly even with said club's approval and aid. Said club appears to bear some responsibility here, IMHO.
Wow, poor wife. I would think a club would hold some responsibility also!
Ferguson, Missouri looks a lot like the Gaza Strip right now.....UNBELIEVABLE! :spooked:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 15, 2014, 08:37:42 AM
Ferguson, Missouri looks a lot like the Gaza Strip right now.....UNBELIEVABLE! :spooked:
Did I not hear that the National Guard has been sent in or am I thinking something else?
Quote from: Purplelady1040 on August 15, 2014, 09:39:14 AM
Did I not hear that the National Guard has been sent in or am I thinking something else?
Not to my knowledge, there are police with riot gear along with SWAT at this time. I think it is finally dying down.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 15, 2014, 08:37:42 AM
Ferguson, Missouri looks a lot like the Gaza Strip right now.....UNBELIEVABLE! :spooked:
Will you people believe me now? I have said for years that the militarization of our police departments were becoming a real bad problem. :yes: Just look at Ferguson Mo. and it has to stop and stop now. :rant:
These cops are not peace officers, these cops are military SWAT killers. :rant:
Quote from: The Troll on August 17, 2014, 04:50:06 PM
Will you people believe me now? I have said for years that the militarization of our police departments were becoming a real bad problem. :yes: Just look at Ferguson Mo. and it has to stop and stop now. :rant:
These cops are not peace officers, these cops are military SWAT killers. :rant:
Perhaps if the people were not LOOTING and DESTROYING personal property the cops would not have to act in a military way. They have no choice now but to be extremely forceful.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 18, 2014, 08:11:33 AM
Perhaps if the people were not LOOTING and DESTROYING personal property the cops would not have to act in a military way. They have no choice now but to be extremely forceful.
I wouldn't care if they shot the looters, but the problem is they treated everyone like looters and criminals and the military force they have become has to stop. :yes: :rant:
Today the cops and SWAT cops have more armor and weapons than the troops that first went into Iraq and they are trained that if you don't submit to their demands, you die. I would like to know how many people have been shot and killed by cops in America. They claim the don't keep records on that. :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:
Quote from: The Troll on August 18, 2014, 05:18:21 PM
I wouldn't care if they shot the looters, but the problem is they treated everyone like looters and criminals and the military force they have become has to stop. :yes: :rant:
Today the cops and SWAT cops have more armor and weapons than the troops that first went into Iraq and they are trained that if you don't submit to their demands, you die. I would like to know how many people have been shot and killed by cops in America. They claim the don't keep records on that. :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:
Are you trying to say that SWAT kills innocent people and it goes unnoticed? SERIOUSLY?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 19, 2014, 08:34:55 AM
Are you trying to say that SWAT kills innocent people and it goes unnoticed? SERIOUSLY?
Yes Block Head, they have done it many times. :doh: Getting the address wrong and gassing and breaking down the wrong doors and shooting the people inside the wrong house or apartment. :rant: Don't you ever read the newspaper or watch television except of cartoons and Fox News. Wake up Bunky and see what is really going on in your own little world. It happen in your Anderson where SWAT got the wrong address. Tho they didn't kill anybody, they threw a stun grenade, broke down the door into the house where a grandfather and his grand daughter were in the living room. After they went in they found two young men who had some Marijuana and rested them. They fucked up big time and you didn't know anything about it. :groan:
Mistakes happen. How many LIVES has been saved because of a well-trained SWAT team? You don't hear much about that either.
Nor, do you hear about the police officers who give money out of their own pockets for families to have things. There was a white police officer in S.Carolina who bought a bed for a black child because the child didn't have a real bed. It doesn't matter what color one's skin is- I have seen good officers of all colors just as I have seen some bad officers of all colors.
Quote from: Purplelady1040 on August 19, 2014, 11:07:29 AM
Nor, do you hear about the police officers who give money out of their own pockets for families to have things. There was a white police officer in S.Carolina who bought a bed for a black child because the child didn't have a real bed. It doesn't matter what color one's skin is- I have seen good officers of all colors just as I have seen some bad officers of all colors.
And so one good deed lets them kill unarmed and innocent people. Give me a break. :kiss:
Quote from: The Troll on August 19, 2014, 04:38:39 PM
And so one good deed lets them kill unarmed and innocent people. Give me a break. :kiss:
How many unarmed and innocent people have been killed TROLL....you act like there are hundreds of cases. You honestly think that there are more bad cops than good cops?
Quote from: The Troll on August 19, 2014, 04:38:39 PM
And so one good deed lets them kill unarmed and innocent people. Give me a break. :kiss:
They don't kill unarmed and innocent people when doing a good deed. You really are delusional.
Quote from: Purplelady1040 on August 19, 2014, 06:26:24 PM
They don't kill unarmed and innocent people when doing a good deed. You really are delusional.
Really? Then what is going on in the incident below, which started this topic?
Quote from: Palehorse on April 10, 2014, 06:42:46 PM
This time in Madison County, and Edgewood to be exact.
Sunday, a young married couple on their way home from church, were rear-ended by this off duty Edgewood cop; doing 92 miles an hour and full on plowing their vehicle from the rear on state road 32 just outside of Lapel.
The hit caused the victims vehicle to hit a utility pole, broadside and passenger side first; killing the husband (passenger) and severely injuring the 9 month pregnant wife who was airlifted and had her baby delivered via emergency c-section. Mom and baby are doing okay, but daddy is dead.
The off duty cop was booked for OWI, and has admitted to using Hydrocodone and Xanax.
http://www.wthr.com/story/25216273/2014/04/10/edgewood-officer-charged-in-fatal-crash (http://www.wthr.com/story/25216273/2014/04/10/edgewood-officer-charged-in-fatal-crash)
He was officially charged today with:
Ct-1 Operating While Intoxicated Causing Death, I.C. Code 9-30-5-5, as a Class B Felony (Causing death of another person to wit Jesse Sperry)
Ct-2 Operating While Intoxicated Causing Serious Bodily Injury, I.C. Code 9-30-5-4, as a Class D Felony. (Causing serious bodily injury to another person to wit Rebecca Sperry)
Ct-3 Reckless Driving, I.C. Code 9-21-8-52, as a Class A Misdemeanor.
The Madison County Prosecutor also has added the charge of Reckless Homicide as a Class C Felony, I.C. 35-42-1-5.
What you will not read in this story:
My wife and I babysat our grandson on Saturday night, overnight, so our daughter and her husband could attend a memorial race for their late friend who had passed away unexpectedly a few weeks ago. Our daughter is pregnant and due in August, but despite feeling exhausted by the events activities, agreed to go along with the group of friends to a "new" local lounge for a toast in his honor.
This "new" lounge is currently being referred to as the "New Ramada Inn", after a now defunct and torn down hotels former bar that the areas young and rambunctious crowd used to frequent. It is owned and operated by the former owner of the Ramada Inn, and like the former Ramada Inns Lounge, it hires a certain off duty police officer to act as security into the wee hours. That "officer" is none other than James Foutch, and he was still at that bar at 4:00am when my daughter, her husband, and their party left the establishment. And he was very much under the influence at that time.
Most of the crowd knew him and were friendly with him, since he represented the power to toss them out, as well as the law.
So it was no surprise to our daughter that he was the one who had caused this horrific accident. . . I wonder if anyone has dropped the tip line any of this information???? :mad:
Quote from: Palehorse on August 19, 2014, 06:51:31 PM
Really? Then what is going on in the incident below, which started this topic?
Yes, I remember that article but I am talking about officers who while in uniform doing good deeds not off duty. You are always going to have a few bad officers who spoil the reputation of those who do a good job and work hard at the job.
Quote from: Purplelady1040 on August 19, 2014, 07:27:52 PM
Yes, I remember that article but I am talking about officers who while in uniform doing good deeds not off duty. You are always going to have a few bad officers who spoil the reputation of those who do a good job and work hard at the job.
So that begs the question; how is the militarization of law enforcement, via the procurement and deployment of military equipment and tactics, impacting all officers, as well as public relations between those who police and the policed?
Quote from: Palehorse on August 19, 2014, 07:47:26 PM
So that begs the question; how is the militarization of law enforcement, via the procurement and deployment of military equipment and tactics, impacting all officers, as well as public relations between those who police and the policed?
Good question and one that I don't know will ever be answered!
Quote from: Purplelady1040 on August 19, 2014, 08:14:09 PM
Good question and one that I don't know will ever be answered!
Ferguson is a microcosm of the answer.
And those of you reading this need to understand that what is going on there is going to be happening in your state / city / town if something isn't done to positively influence the root causes for the whole situation.
Quote from: Palehorse on August 19, 2014, 08:20:52 PM
Ferguson is a microcosm of the answer.
And those of you reading this need to understand that what is going on there is going to be happening in your state / city / town if something isn't done to positively influence the root causes for the whole situation.
Here is a situation that happened here PH. Guy has his vehicle stolen by some black teens and an adult. Gets his vehicle back and a week later, they try to steal it again. They get caught and juveniles were suppose to be in detention. They then go to an adjoining county, try to steal one and take off after hurting someone and on a police chase. Now, why the juveniles were released has been the topic of discussion and the adult should not have been let out. Granted they didn't kill anyone but what if they had killed a white person? Would the blacks been sympathetic or would they have said that the white person was trying to hurt the blacks?
Quote from: Palehorse on August 19, 2014, 07:47:26 PM
So that begs the question; how is the militarization of law enforcement, via the procurement and deployment of military equipment and tactics, impacting all officers, as well as public relations between those who police and the policed?
When hundreds of angry men and women decide to burn a neighborhood, turn over cars and loot because they just won or lost an NBA championship or when someone is killed by a cop....the law must be prepared to handle it.
Have we gone to far? What is to far? Where should we draw the line?
I understand your concern and to an extent I agree with you, but I see where a certain amount of "militarization" for a lack of a better term must be need to handle certain situations.
When the bad guys are armed with assault rifles, the good guys should be as well. Militarization of law enforcement has nothing to do with equipment but with attitude. At some point, the focus changed from going out to serve the community to going out to conquer it.
Quote from: Exterminator on August 20, 2014, 11:16:00 AM
When the bad guys are armed with assault rifles, the good guys should be as well. Militarization of law enforcement has nothing to do with equipment but with attitude. At some point, the focus changed from going out to serve the community to going out to conquer it.
bingo!
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 19, 2014, 04:59:51 PM
How many unarmed and innocent people have been killed TROLL....you act like there are hundreds of cases. You honestly think that there are more bad cops than good cops?
They don't "keep" records of cop killings, so they say. But there has been many, too many and they practically all get off. :doh: Just go to You Tube and put in cops killing citizens and you will see a small slice of all the murders they commit. My god boy, you're so damn slow. :rolleyes: :no: :no: :no: :no:
Quote from: Exterminator on August 20, 2014, 11:16:00 AM
When the bad guys are armed with assault rifles, the good guys should be as well. Militarization of law enforcement has nothing to do with equipment but with attitude. At some point, the focus changed from going out to serve the community to going out to conquer it.
You said it!
Quote from: Exterminator on August 20, 2014, 11:16:00 AM
. . . At some point, the focus changed from going out to serve the community to going out to conquer it.
Yes.
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Good people have you heard the tape of the cop in Ferguson that shot the unarmed 18 year old. The cop :police: fired his gun at least 12 times and the last 4 shots were slow, deliberate and to the chest, face and top of head. :police: :rant: All of this for resisting arrest????? or maybe maybe even shoplifting???? Yep the cop :police: committed murder. :mad: :mad: :mad: :rant:
Quote from: The Troll on August 27, 2014, 10:11:18 AM
Good people have you heard the tape of the cop in Ferguson that shot the unarmed 18 year old. The cop :police: fired his gun at least 12 times and the last 4 shots were slow, deliberate and to the chest, face and top of head. :police: :rant: All of this for resisting arrest????? or maybe maybe even shoplifting???? Yep the cop :police: committed murder. :mad: :mad: :mad: :rant:
You are an idiot. :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 27, 2014, 12:29:20 PM
You are an idiot. :yes:
And you're a stupid asshole Bunky. One brain dead asshole. :yes: :biggrin: :azz: Dagwood Bumsted. :haha: What a loser. :kissit: