https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-indiana-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/51jYVZ5L (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-indiana-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/51jYVZ5L)
WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:
Peacefully grant the State of Indiana to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.
As the founding fathers of the United States of America made clear in the Declaration of Independence in 1776:
"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."
"...Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government..."
Created: Nov 10, 2012
Over 7,000 signatures on this piece of outhouse paper thus far. The people of this state have lost their frickin minds! :rant:
Difficult to lose what they never had.
Quote from: followsthewolf on November 14, 2012, 11:37:08 AM
Difficult to lose what they never had.
Worth repeating! :yes:
I guess Indiana is now whine country!
Quote from: Exterminator on November 14, 2012, 11:39:29 AM
I guess Indiana is now whine country!
Yeah, it is a sour whine too!
(http://keithgrossman.com/dumb.jpg)
Apparently there are more than 675,000 digital signatures on 69 separate secession petitions covering all 50 states...Petitions from Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, North Carolina, Tennessee and Texas residents have accrued at least 25,000 signatures from each state.
You say what you will, but there are large number of people who are tired of the way our government is being ran.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 14, 2012, 11:54:56 AM
You say what you will, but there are large number of people who are tired of the way our government is being ran.
Yes, well fuck them.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 14, 2012, 11:54:56 AM
Apparently there are more than 675,000 digital signatures on 69 separate secession petitions covering all 50 states...Petitions from Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, North Carolina, Tennessee and Texas residents have accrued at least 25,000 signatures from each state.
You say what you will, but there are large number of people who are tired of the way our government is being ran.
I am also tired of the way our government is working; or should I say NOT working. But you do not see me supporting secessionist movements, nor will you. This is nothing more than sour grapes and fear-mongering. It is just that simple.
If people are tired of the lack of progress then they should vote their conscious. . . Oh wait, we just did!
These petitions are nothing short of treason, and those signing them should be publicly horse-whipped. :yes:
Moreover, I would strongly suggest people stop being hoodwinked by these emotional propagandists and get to the real issue here; the fiscal cliff.
All this and McCain are trying to do is to divert your attention from the fact it is going to be business as usual with congress, and that they are pushing us over the fiscal cliff. Once we are over it they are going to blame it on the POTUS when in fact it is their OWN lethargy that is and will be responsible for this FUBAR situation.
Quote from: Palehorse on November 14, 2012, 12:00:04 PM
I am also tired of the way our government is working; or should I say NOT working. But you do not see me supporting secessionist movements, nor will you. This is nothing more than sour grapes and fear-mongering. It is just that simple.
If people are tired of the lack of progress then they should vote their conscious. . . Oh wait, we just did!
These petitions are nothing short of treason, and those signing them should be publicly horse-whipped. :yes:
I don't agree that it is treason, but I agree we have elections that decide.
The problem is the way I see it, we are divided. Obama MUST become a strong leader right now. He has the chance to shine and become a very prominent POTUS. Even though I disagree with him on several policies........I want this Nation to become prosperous once again, for EVERYONE, not just the segments who voted for him.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 14, 2012, 12:05:11 PM
I don't agree that it is treason, but I agree we have elections that decide.
How is it not? They are attempting to betray this country and overthrow its governance. We fought a war over this very act and today here we are once again dealing with these miscreants.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 14, 2012, 12:05:11 PM
The problem is the way I see it, we are divided. Obama MUST become a strong leader right now. He has the chance to shine and become a very prominent POTUS. Even though I disagree with him on several policies........I want this Nation to become prosperous once again, for EVERYONE, not just the segments who voted for him.
We are divided only by the emotional propagandists and the willingness of a sector of this nation to blindly accept said propaganda as truth without so much as a modicum of investigation or fact finding.
I see President Obama's tenure as strikingly similar to that of Abraham Lincoln's in many ways. And while the war he must deal with is not within the borders of this nation, it is none-the-less one of the facets being utilized to increase the division of this country. How? The cost of it is being blamed upon him despite the fact it did not start in his administration. The collateral damage it imposes (IE Benghazi) is being used as a lever with which to undermine his credibility and authority, and to manufacture wind to the sails of the ship of secessionists.
2 Americans died in Benghazi. 2. More Americans died at the hands of zealots using knives with which to behead them, and yet there was no holding the sitting POTUS responsible at that time. One has to wonder why.
Moreover, I would strongly suggest people stop being hoodwinked by these emotional propagandists and get to the real issue here; the fiscal cliff.
All this and McCain are trying to do is to divert your attention from the fact it is going to be business as usual with congress, and that they are pushing us over the fiscal cliff. Once we are over it they are going to blame it on the POTUS when in fact it is their OWN lethargy that is and will be responsible for this FUBAR situation.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 14, 2012, 12:05:11 PM
I don't agree that it is treason, but I agree we have elections that decide.
The problem is the way I see it, we are divided. Obama MUST become a strong leader right now. He has the chance to shine and become a very prominent POTUS. Even though I disagree with him on several policies........I want this Nation to become prosperous once again, for EVERYONE, not just the segments who voted for him.
There is nothing wrong with Obama's leadership. You have been brain washed by the Republican New Media. :doh: The problems we have in this country was cause by George W. Bush and the Republican Party. And it all started with one statement. "Our main job is to see that Barack Obama is a one term president. :rant: And for 4 long years this the only thing the Republican party has worked on or for. :rant: It is treason of the highest order and Henry you are part of it. And you saying that you want Obama to become a great POTUS :haha: :haha: is bull shit. :rant:
Think what you will. I have my own, very strong opinions, that I will not back down from. Troll, if you think I am treasonous, then it is proof that YOU and like thinking, are the one's who are falling for propaganda.
You are also part of the division problem we face.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 14, 2012, 11:54:56 AM
Apparently there are more than 675,000 digital signatures on 69 separate secession petitions covering all 50 states...Petitions from Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, North Carolina, Tennessee and Texas residents have accrued at least 25,000 signatures from each state.
You say what you will, but there are large number of people who are tired of the way our government is being ran.
Promises, promises ....
When at first you don't succeed, try secession.
At least that seems to be what's going on right now at We The People, the White House's official petition site, where there are now petitions for 20 states to secede.
This makes sense. Why move to Canada in response to Obama's reelection? If you want to live in Canada, just stay in America and wait for his policies to take effect! At least this is what all the ominous forwarded e-mails from my aged relatives imply.
But the trouble with crying "secede" too many times is that people start viewing it less as a threat than a consummation devoutly to be wished.
"I'm going to secede!" Texas yells for the 89th time.
"Promises, promises!" the rest of the nation responds.
But it's not just Texas, although its petition has the most signatures— more than 22,000 already, with 25,000 signatures in 30 days being the threshold to get an official White House response. Then again, in the Great Nation of Texas, seceding is something of a national pastime. And one must note that not all the signatures are from Texas. The idea of Texan secession has supporters on both sides of the state line.
There are also petitions from Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, and Tennessee.
"Please stop promising us gifts you can't deliver," sigh large swaths of the country. "Just sit down and eat your dinner. I've gotten my hopes up too many times."
Then again, why not secede?
I, for one, would like to see this.
The Great Nation of Colorado is probably sort of fun. And there is nothing like that moment when they stamp your passport to grant you entrance to Florida to force you to reflect what on earth you are doing visiting Florida in the first place.
All this secession is what comes of the limited release of "Lincoln." Most of the country has had no opportunity to see it, and consequently we do not understand why dissolving the Union is a bad idea. Dang it, Spielberg, you should have sent it to Texas first, where its message was most sorely needed.
Sure, we studied this in history, but if we had learned history we would not have had to repeat it several times in order to graduate.
And Civil War history is our favorite kind to repeat. Some of the states with petitions didn't even secede in 1861, but they aren't going to miss out on the fun this time around. If at first you didn't secede, there's always 2012.
So go right ahead. Secede. Make our day.
Just don't come begging to us a few years from now, hungry and tired, asking us to pay the pensions of your public employees. We've seen "Lincoln." We know how these efforts end.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/post/if-at-first-you-dont-secede--petition-the-white-house/2012/11/12/703e661c-2cff-11e2-89d4-040c9330702a_blog.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/post/if-at-first-you-dont-secede--petition-the-white-house/2012/11/12/703e661c-2cff-11e2-89d4-040c9330702a_blog.html)
People from New York and New Jersey are signing petitions to secede with one hand while holding the other one out for help from the rest of the country after the storm. Hypocritical morons. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Exterminator on November 14, 2012, 01:10:38 PM
People from New York and New Jersey are signing petitions to secede with one hand while holding the other one out for help from the rest of the country after the storm. Hypocritical morons. :rolleyes:
You are just assuming this........there are about 12,000 from each state that has signed the petition. You don't know that these folks are sticking their hands out or not....I'm guessing they are not.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 14, 2012, 01:20:27 PM
You are just assuming this........there are about 12,000 from each state that has signed the petition. You don't know that these folks are sticking their hands out or not....I'm guessing they are not.
WASHINGTON -- Thirteen senators from seven states damaged by Superstorm Sandy are asking President Obama to boost federal disaster aid to the states.
Senators from New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Rhode Island, West Virginia, Delaware and Maryland asked Obama in a joint letter Tuesday to add more emergency aid for federal disaster assistance programs in his 2013 budget request. They want quick action by Obama to help speed recovery efforts from the massive storm that pounded the East Coast.
More sour grapes ..... this is nuts!
Woman runs over husband for not voting
GILBERT, Ariz. (AP) - Police in Arizona say a Mesa woman injured her husband by running over him with an SUV because he didn't vote in last week's presidential election.
Authorities say Holly Solomon opposed President Barack Obama and was upset her husband didn't go to the polls.
The husband told investigators Solomon believed her family was going to face hardship if Obama were re-elected.
Police say Solomon chased her husband through a Gilbert parking lot, circled him as hid behind a light pole, struck him and pinned him under the vehicle as he tried to flee.
Solomon told police she was just trying to scare him but accidentally stepped on the accelerator.
She was booked on an aggravated assault count and it wasn't clear whether she has a lawyer.
Awwww..........true love.
For what, I haven't the foggiest notion, but she sure is passionate about something.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 14, 2012, 12:31:30 PM
Think what you will. I have my own, very strong opinions, that I will not back down from.
Yea, yea, yea, I have heard you say it many many times. And you are wrong, cheap, unfair, treasonous and have no love in your heart for anyone but yourself. :yes: :trustme:
It would seem some portion of the population have become addicted to idiocy.
Quote from: Palehorse on November 15, 2012, 12:00:18 PM
It would seem some portion of the population have become addicted to idiocy.
Yes, yes. It must have been the way they were raised, a birth defect, a DNA defect from past ancestry. :yes: I would say it is not a normal human reaction. They must be filled with self hate and delusion. see Border Line Personality Disorder = Crazy! :biggrin:
Allen West needs to look at this thread. :mad: :mad:
Quote from: Locutus on November 16, 2012, 03:00:30 PM
Allen West needs to look at this thread. :mad: :mad:
racist!
:razz:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 16, 2012, 03:10:59 PM
racist!
:razz:
No, realist.
This Tea Party asshole lost the election beyond the margin by which state law requires a recount, and he won't concede. He has to hang on to power at all costs despite the fact that the people voted him out.
He's wasting taxpayer money in the court system throwing what amounts to a power trip and ego induced temper tantrum.
:mad:
He just lost another court hearing at 1 p.m. this afternoon. Now let's see if he mans up, does the right thing, and concedes.
Quote from: Locutus on November 16, 2012, 03:45:36 PM
No, realist.
This Tea Party asshole lost the election beyond the margin by which state law requires a recount, and he won't concede. He has to hang on to power at all costs despite the fact that the people voted him out.
He's wasting taxpayer money in the court system throwing what amounts to a power trip and ego induced temper tantrum.
:mad:
He just lost another court hearing at 1 p.m. this afternoon. Now let's see if he mans up, does the right thing, and concedes.
sure, it just because he is a black man! just say it! :yes: :razz:
Quote from: Locutus on November 16, 2012, 03:45:36 PM
No, realist.
This Tea Party asshole lost the election beyond the margin by which state law requires a recount, and he won't concede. He has to hang on to power at all costs despite the fact that the people voted him out.
He's wasting taxpayer money in the court system throwing what amounts to a power trip and ego induced temper tantrum.
:mad:
He just lost another court hearing at 1 p.m. this afternoon. Now let's see if he mans up, does the right thing, and concedes.
Could it be one of the deals where more people voted than live in a given precinct or town? Or maybe one of the places where an unusual amount of people only voted for one candidate and there were no votes for the other? Of course that's probably no cause for alarm if you're a conservative.
Could it be he simply lost? :rolleyes:
Quote from: Exterminator on November 16, 2012, 04:23:09 PM
Could it be he simply lost? :rolleyes:
Whats the matter, don't you like having people question liberals? Look at it this way; they're just getting a good dose of their own medicine.
Whatever...cry babies.
Quote from: Exterminator on November 16, 2012, 04:32:56 PM
Whatever...cry babies.
:thumbsup: Yes sir, they sure know how to cry. :cry: :cry: :cry: :grin2: