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Title: Advise four the grammatically challenged. Your welcome!
Post by: Sandy Eggo on July 26, 2012, 08:40:28 PM
(http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/4025/grammary.jpg)

These all bother me, but I really hate when someone uses "them" incorrectly. For example, "I drank all them drinks". I would also add "won't"/"want" and "our"/"are"/"hour"

What about you?
Title: Re: Advise four the grammatically challenged. Your welcome!
Post by: Locutus on July 26, 2012, 08:56:19 PM
I've seen people use "another words" instead of "in other words."  ;D
Title: Re: Advise four the grammatically challenged. Your welcome!
Post by: me on July 26, 2012, 09:29:40 PM
I reely dont think sum will ever get it.  Its not that there stoopid its just that they don't think.  Its like they have a metal bloc. 

In all seriousness I used to live next door to a 3rd grade teacher who would misuse words and misspell them and she was married to a professor who taught at Anderson College, that was before it became a University, and he wasn't a whole lot better.  So I've found things like in your post happen even with supposedly educated people.  You have no clue how many times I stopped short of correcting her but thought better of it. 

Yes, Ex I was almost as bad as you about other people's use of the English language and spelling but I've long since gotten over it and just learned to ignore it.  Life is too short to sweat the small stuff and in the larger scheme of things that's just a teeny weeny nuisance and really no big deal.
Title: Re: Advise four the grammatically challenged. Your welcome!
Post by: Sandy Eggo on July 26, 2012, 09:40:32 PM
Quote from: me on July 26, 2012, 09:29:40 PM
I reely dont think sum will ever get it.  Its not that there stoopid its just that they don't think.  Its like they have a metal bloc. 

In all seriousness I used to live next door to a 3rd grade teacher who would misuse words and misspell them and she was married to a professor who taught at Anderson College, that was before it became a University, and he wasn't a whole lot better.  So I've found things like in your post happen even with supposedly educated people.  You have no clue how many times I stopped short of correcting her but thought better of it. 

Yes, Ex I was almost as bad as you about other people's use of the English language and spelling but I've long since gotten over it and just learned to ignore it.  Life is too short to sweat the small stuff and in the larger scheme of things that's just a teeny weeny nuisance and really no big deal.

Unfortunately, I review analysis done by others.  While I'm supposed to be looking for technical accuracy rather than proofreading  and grammar, this is a product that will go out to our customers once it's complete. If I don't mark the errors, they will certainly send these documents out as they are. Everyone makes mistakes, I agree, but when you see certain words and phrases used incorrectly on a consistent basis it's disheartening and maddening.

Title: Re: Advise four the grammatically challenged. Your welcome!
Post by: me on July 26, 2012, 09:46:47 PM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on July 26, 2012, 09:40:32 PM
Unfortunately, I review analysis done by others.  While I'm supposed to be looking for technical accuracy rather than proofreading  and grammar, this is a product that will go out to our customers once it's complete. If I don't mark the errors, they will certainly send these documents out as they are. Everyone makes mistakes, I agree, but when you see certain words and phrases used incorrectly on a consistent basis it's disheartening and maddening.
In your position I can certainly understand that.  I believe if I had to deal with it daily I would feel the same because it would no longer be a tiny nuisance it would be a major irritation. 
Title: Re: Advise four the grammatically challenged. Your welcome!
Post by: Palehorse on July 26, 2012, 10:06:41 PM
"things has happened"

It is "have". . .  That is one of my complaints. . .  :yes:
Title: Re: Advise four the grammatically challenged. Your welcome!
Post by: Anne on July 26, 2012, 10:45:36 PM
Mine are aint and two, too and to. My husband;s family are from 'out East' and that seems to be a requirement for any conversation. :)
Title: Re: Advise four the grammatically challenged. Your welcome!
Post by: The Troll on July 26, 2012, 11:08:56 PM
Quote from: Anne on July 26, 2012, 10:45:36 PM
Mine are aint and two, too and to. My husband;s family are from 'out East' and that seems to be a requirement for any conversation. :)

  Two me you is two picky.  Too some people, you two bitchy to.   :wink: :smile:
Title: Re: Advise four the grammatically challenged. Your welcome!
Post by: Sunny on July 27, 2012, 06:20:48 AM
Irregardless vs. regardless. Irregardless is a double negative & incorrect use of the word 'regardless'; however, it's commonly used.
Title: Re: Advise four the grammatically challenged. Your welcome!
Post by: libby on July 27, 2012, 11:03:32 AM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on July 26, 2012, 08:40:28 PM
(http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/4025/grammary.jpg)

These all bother me, but I really hate when someone uses "them" incorrectly. For example, "I drank all them drinks". I would also add "won't"/"want" and "our"/"are"/"hour"

What about you?
I have a problem with affect/effect, and the definition above.  There's a bit more to it, and here's why/how I know:

Affect is sometimes a noun, and effect sometimes a verb, and I know that because my first real job, other than at the five and dime, was as a part-time medical secretary while taking college classes. My boss liked to dictate medical reports to a person, meaning I typed while he talked. It was up to me to get it right before the finished report was distributed throughout the hospital. I learned that the hard way when another doctor walked up to a group of us and waved a report and said, "Who typed this?" Somebody pointed to me. I wanted to crawl under the desk, but the doctor, probably thinking I might faint from fear, took me aside and cautioned me that my boss could not spell and that didn't matter because that was my job. Lesson learned.

Anyway, as for affect/effect, the best explanation I could find (quickly) that makes my point is from The Little, Brown Handbook:

"affect, effect  Usually affect is a verb, meaning "to influence," and effect is a noun, meaning "result": The drug did not affect his driving; in fact, it seemed to have no effect at all. But effect occasionally is used as a verb meaning "to bring about"; Her efforts effected a change. And affect is used in psychology as a noun meaning "feeling or emotion": One can infer much about affect from behavior.


 
Title: Re: Advise four the grammatically challenged. Your welcome!
Post by: Sunny on July 27, 2012, 01:17:50 PM
Thanks, Libby. I struggle a lot of "affect" and "effect".  The mental health world uses "affect" as a noun quite frequently.  :yes:
Title: Re: Advise four the grammatically challenged. Your welcome!
Post by: Sandy Eggo on July 27, 2012, 04:16:32 PM
I swear, I'm just "happening" across this stuff and since it's relevant....
I Won't Hire People Who Use Poor Grammar. Here's Why.

QuoteIf you think an apostrophe was one of the 12 disciples of Jesus, you will never work for me. If you think a semicolon is a regular colon with an identity crisis, I will not hire you. If you scatter commas into a sentence with all the discrimination of a shotgun, you might make it to the foyer before we politely escort you from the building.

Some might call my approach to grammar extreme, but I prefer Lynne Truss's more cuddly phraseology: I am a grammar "stickler." And, like Truss — author of Eats, Shoots & Leaves — I have a "zero tolerance approach" to grammar mistakes that make people look stupid.

Now, Truss and I disagree on what it means to have "zero tolerance." She thinks that people who mix up their itses "deserve to be struck by lightning, hacked up on the spot and buried in an unmarked grave," while I just think they deserve to be passed over for a job — even if they are otherwise qualified for the position.

Everyone who applies for a position at either of my companies, iFixit or Dozuki, takes a mandatory grammar test. Extenuating circumstances aside (dyslexia, English language learners, etc.), if job hopefuls can't distinguish between "to" and "too," their applications go into the bin

http://blogs.hbr.org/cs/2012/07/i_wont_hire_people_who_use_poo.html
Title: Re: Advise four the grammatically challenged. Your welcome!
Post by: Sunny on July 27, 2012, 05:40:48 PM
Quote from: Sunny on July 27, 2012, 01:17:50 PM
Thanks, Libby. I struggle a lot of "affect" and "effect".  The mental health world uses "affect" as a noun quite frequently.  :yes:

I am far from grammatically perfect. The second sentence is case in point.

I'd like to add a pluralizing blunder that drives me CRAZY.....

A cloth is something you wipe the counter with. If you have several, they are cloths. The things you wear are C-L-O-T-H-E-S. You do NOT wear cloths.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Advise four the grammatically challenged. Your welcome!
Post by: Locutus on July 27, 2012, 05:53:29 PM
Quote from: Sunny on July 27, 2012, 05:40:48 PM
I am far from grammatically perfect. The second sentence is case in point.

I'd like to add a pluralizing blunder that drives me CRAZY.....

A cloth is something you wipe the counter with. If you have several, they are cloths. The things you wear are C-L-O-T-H-E-S. You do NOT wear cloths.  :laugh:

Yup!  I've seen that one a few times myself.  ;D
Title: Re: Advise four the grammatically challenged. Your welcome!
Post by: Sandy Eggo on July 27, 2012, 06:20:24 PM
I use cloths to clothe myself. :oops: :biggrin:

Lately my peeves are were we're and where and then there's they're, their and there.
Title: Re: Advise four the grammatically challenged. Your welcome!
Post by: Sunny on July 27, 2012, 06:54:38 PM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on July 27, 2012, 06:20:24 PM
I use cloths to clothe myself. :oops: :biggrin:

Lately my peeves are were we're and where and then there's they're, their and there.

Yep. I have two teacher friends who consistently use the above improperly on Facebook. Makes me want to cringe.

BTW, what are ya gonna where to the party tonight, Sandy? Want me to pick out yer cloths for ya? :laugh:
Title: Re: Advise four the grammatically challenged. Your welcome!
Post by: Sandy Eggo on July 27, 2012, 09:08:03 PM
Quote from: Sunny on July 27, 2012, 06:54:38 PM
Yep. I have two teacher friends who consistently use the above improperly on Facebook. Makes me want to cringe.

BTW, what are ya gonna where to the party tonight, Sandy? Want me to pick out yer cloths for ya? :laugh:

Your to good too me, Sunny! ;D
Title: Re: Advise four the grammatically challenged. Your welcome!
Post by: me on July 27, 2012, 09:28:36 PM
You guy's are crackin' me up.  Wonder if one of them is the same teecher I new?  would be funny if you no her two.  :biggrin:
Quote from: Sunny on July 27, 2012, 06:54:38 PM
Yep. I have two teacher friends who consistently use the above improperly on Facebook. Makes me want to cringe.

BTW, what are ya gonna where to the party tonight, Sandy? Want me to pick out yer cloths for ya? :laugh:
Title: Re: Advise four the grammatically challenged. Your welcome!
Post by: Y on July 28, 2012, 10:24:29 PM
Wat de' hail u awl bee stawkin' 'bouts gramma?  Un ub de' fynes wimmins eye eba noed.  Chee lub mi ta debt!   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Advise four the grammatically challenged. Your welcome!
Post by: Palehorse on July 28, 2012, 10:28:21 PM
 :eek4: :eek4: :eek4: :eek4: :eek4: :gha: :gha: :gha: :gha: :gha:
Title: Re: Advise four the grammatically challenged. Your welcome!
Post by: Y on July 28, 2012, 10:42:11 PM
 :biggrin:

Do you remember back in the day when some people thought I'd found an online Uncle Remus translator?  Didn't want to believe it was all me. 
Title: Re: Advise four the grammatically challenged. Your welcome!
Post by: Palehorse on July 28, 2012, 10:48:10 PM
Quote from: Y on July 28, 2012, 10:42:11 PM
:biggrin:

Do you remember back in the day when some people thought I'd found an online Uncle Remus translator?  Didn't want to believe it was all me.

:food24: :rotfl: :yes: