Poll
Question:
So, who do YOU think has brought up Al Gore more in relation to Global Warming?
Option 1: "me"
votes: 3
Option 2: "henry"
votes: 1
Option 3: everyone else put together
votes: 0
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Every time the subject comes up, someone from the right inevitably bring up Al Gore and treats the topic as if it's Al Gore's brainchild. They seem to think that the proof behind Global warming has no merit because Al Gore championed the cause. Could that be akin to saying that Viagra is a hoax because Bob Dole championed the cause? ;D
At any rate, I thought it would be fun to see who has brought him up more. I don't think ANYone has used him as a source and still they ignore the overwhelming evidence and I suspect it's because they'd rather die than admit that Al Gore might have been smart enough to read the writing on the wall.
I think he is brought up more by everyone because he is the most visible and verble person in the news who talkes about it all the time. As for who brings him up on this forum, I don't keep count, but I would guess "me". No one who supports global warming on here seems to want any association with him.
I wasn't clear, I meant forum-wise, but I disagree about everyone talking about him in real life. Just like forum life, the rightwingers cling to him as if it were his idea. Everyone else is smart enough to know better.
Seems to me that he is the go to straw man for the opposition to global warming.
I will admit to the fact that Mr Gore's dedication to the subject is what drove me to drill down into the topic and do my own review of the facts, figures, and science that validates this issue. Prior to Gore's message I had been on the fence surrounding the validity of the problem, but with a little effort, investigation, and observation I realized that I needed to reevaluate my position surrounding this problem.
Mr Gore got my attention, but the science convinced me that this is a very real challenge!
Quote from: Palehorse on August 12, 2010, 03:03:16 PM
Seems to me that he is the go to straw man for the opposition to global warming.
I will admit to the fact that Mr Gore's dedication to the subject is what drove me to drill down into the topic and do my own review of the facts, figures, and science that validates this issue. Prior to Gore's message I had been on the fence surrounding the validity of the problem, but with a little effort, investigation, and observation I realized that I needed to reevaluate my position surrounding this problem.
Mr Gore got my attention, but the science convinced me that this is a very real challenge!
I even agree to an extent but I don't agree with the solution that is being proposed in total, crap and tax being the biggest thing I don't agree with and I have stated the reasons why several times.
Cap and trade has been in place for nearly two decades since Bush Sr. implemented it and has absolutely proven its efficacy (and the world didn't end). Anyone decrying it now is doing so out of ignorance and is merely parroting what they've been told by their neocon shepherds. You've got a hell of a lot of nerve, lady, telling other people to wake up.
Quote from: Exterminator on August 12, 2010, 03:22:31 PM
Cap and trade has been in place for nearly two decades since Bush Sr. implemented it and has absolutely proven its efficacy (and the world didn't end). Anyone decrying it now is doing so out of ignorance and is merely parroting what they've been told by their neocon shepherds. You've got a hell of a lot of nerve, lady, telling other people to wake up.
I'm talking about this:
http://energyhow.net/captrade.htm?gclid=CKK2wKeItaMCFQVGnQodHF_rZQ
How odd, me. You claim to be adamantly against caps on emissions, and yet you post a link lauding the benefit of such a scheme. Did you miss this paragraph?
The bullets are already flying—but mainly over details of the plan, not the general idea. While there are still fierce opponents of emissions limits, such as the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, much of business is supportive. The Obama Administration "is very close to right on the climate plan," says John W. Rowe, chief executive of Exelon (EXC), a Chicago-based utility.
Quote from: LOsborne on August 12, 2010, 07:22:38 PM
How odd, me. You claim to be adamantly against caps on emissions, and yet you post a link lauding the benefit of such a scheme. Did you miss this paragraph?
The bullets are already flying—but mainly over details of the plan, not the general idea. While there are still fierce opponents of emissions limits, such as the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, much of business is supportive. The Obama Administration "is very close to right on the climate plan," says John W. Rowe, chief executive of Exelon (EXC), a Chicago-based utility.
I thought the same thing, but questioned my sanity so I didn't comment! :biggrin:
Quote from: LOsborne on August 12, 2010, 07:22:38 PM
How odd, me. You claim to be adamantly against caps on emissions, and yet you post a link lauding the benefit of such a scheme. Did you miss this paragraph?
The bullets are already flying—but mainly over details of the plan, not the general idea. While there are still fierce opponents of emissions limits, such as the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, much of business is supportive. The Obama Administration "is very close to right on the climate plan," says John W. Rowe, chief executive of Exelon (EXC), a Chicago-based utility.
No didn't miss a thing just posted it so Ex could see what I was talking about. Wasn't trying to make a political statement either way and purposely stayed away from the negative stuff. :razz: