I just saw a news story that said the city of Anderson is planning upon initiating a fine of 100 dollars per pet on owners of un neutered and un-spayed pets in the city! (Dogs and cats). In addition, breeders will be required to purchase a license as well!
The city council is supposed to vote on this ordinance this week at 7 PM, and it is the FIRST I have heard of this! I am NOT happy about it either. . . :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:
Just how do they intend to tell which pets are spayed or neutered, and which ones aren't? Seems to me that's going to be a tad bit difficult to enforce.
Probably vet records when you get the license. Don't know about the older ones that already have their license. I kind of understand it but I sure don't agree with it.
I take my animals to a vet out of town for his annual shots, etc. There is no way I am going to cut his nuts off because I already made the choice not to when he was a pup!
But I assume that's the way they'll try to enforce it, via the vets. . .
And no I do NOT understand it. They are using the Anderson shelter as the reason for it. Hey, it is not my fault they are filled to capacity with animals and 96% of them are not fixed. They are looking for a way to fund the shelter and generate revenues, and they think they have the right to tell pet owners they have to have all of their pets neutered!? That is crap! :rant:
Start enforcing the laws that are on the books dammit! Start euthanizing the pets that owners do not come and pick up and you won't have that overcrowding problem! While I certainly don't like the fact they'll be killing animals, my point is if the animals owners were responsible owners the pets would not be in the shelter in the first place!!!!!!!! So killing them is probably doing them a favor anyway!
Here's a link to the story the Rag HB posted on the topic. . . Apparently the story I saw on the news was wrong about it being owners of adult pets, but rather those purchasing puppies or kittens. Although, I am more inclined to think the TV news had it right and the HB wrong, given the HB's history. . .
http://heraldbulletin.com/crime/x2018347274/Anderson-to-consider-mandatory-pet-neutering (http://heraldbulletin.com/crime/x2018347274/Anderson-to-consider-mandatory-pet-neutering)
Quote from: Palehorse on August 11, 2010, 11:13:26 PM
Here's a link to the story the Rag HB posted on the topic. . . Apparently the story I saw on the news was wrong about it being owners of adult pets, but rather those purchasing puppies or kittens. Although, I am more inclined to think the TV news had it right and the HB wrong, given the HB's history. . .
http://heraldbulletin.com/crime/x2018347274/Anderson-to-consider-mandatory-pet-neutering (http://heraldbulletin.com/crime/x2018347274/Anderson-to-consider-mandatory-pet-neutering)
Another touchy/feely yuppie law. One that's impossible to enforce. What is so expensive about putting unwanted animals to sleep? Let the hog farmers feed them to the hogs, fish food. Get some good use out of them. Now don't get me wrong, I loved my animals, spoiled them to death. But, I sure don't like somebodies else's unwanted animals.
It put me in mind of a story in California. Koreans where adopting some many of the large dogs. Somebody a the dog pound thought that this one Korean family was adopting one a week was a little odd. It was just like it is here, you had to pay for them.
Then they found out they were eating them. OH MY GODD %##**&%#% EATING THEM. Koreans like to eat dogs. So the good people said, if you are going to eat they, you can't adopt them. If we can't adopt them out, we'll put them to sleep and bury them. All of the money and protein lost.
French like to eat horse, but the dumbass Americans don't want to use horses, dog or cats for food. Put them to sleep, but don't eat them. Stupidity rules in America.
Quote from: The Troll on August 12, 2010, 08:19:40 AM
Another touchy/feely yuppie law. One that's impossible to enforce. What is so expensive about putting unwanted animals to sleep? Let the hog farmers feed them to the hogs, fish food. Get some good use out of them. Now don't get me wrong, I loved my animals, spoiled them to death. But, I sure don't like somebodies else's unwanted animals.
It put me in mind of a story in California. Koreans where adopting some many of the large dogs. Somebody a the dog pound thought that this one Korean family was adopting one a week was a little odd. It was just like it is here, you had to pay for them.
Then they found out they were eating them. OH MY GODD %##**&%#% EATING THEM. Koreans like to eat dogs. So the good people said, if you are going to eat they, you can't adopt them. If we can't adopt them out, we'll put them to sleep and bury them. All of the money and protein lost.
French like to eat horse, but the dumbass Americans don't want to use horses, dog or cats for food. Put them to sleep, but don't eat them. Stupidity rules in America.
And then they go out and have a hamburger, chicken, or big ham sammich for lunch....go figure..... :rolleyes: Personally I can't see eating cat or dog meat but it's because our culture is different and we aren't raised to think of those particular animals as meat.
Quote from: me on August 12, 2010, 08:32:36 AM
And then they go out and have a hamburger, chicken, or big ham sammich for lunch....go figure..... :rolleyes: Personally I can't see eating cat or dog meat but it's because our culture is different and we aren't raised to think of those particular animals as meat.
So what are you trying say. I don't get the "then they go out and have a hamburger, chicken or a big ham sammich for lunch."
I knew a man who was a kid in the Hoover depression. He said they ate opossum, coon, crows, ground hogs, pigeons and rats. He said that if you didn't, you didn't have any meat. No protein. He said we were starving to death.
That one of the reason the French eat horse. They went two World Wars and that was all they had to eat. The same with the Koreans.
Quote from: The Troll on August 12, 2010, 10:23:20 AM
So what are you trying say. I don't get the "then they go out and have a hamburger, chicken or a big ham sammich for lunch."
I knew a man who was a kid in the Hoover depression. He said they ate opossum, coon, crows, ground hogs, pigeons and rats. He said that if you didn't, you didn't have any meat. No protein. He said we were starving to death.
That one of the reason the French eat horse. They went two World Wars and that was all they had to eat. The same with the Koreans.
What I'm trying to say is they don't hold with eating a dog or cat which is common in the Korean culture but will go out and eat a hamburger or other meat which is common in our culture and call the Korean wrong. Then they end up killing the dog or cat anyway because no one adopted it and, like you mentioned, the meat that could have fed someone has gone to waste.
Quote from: me on August 12, 2010, 10:41:47 AM
What I'm trying to say is they don't hold with eating a dog or cat which is common in the Korean culture but will go out and eat a hamburger or other meat which is common in our culture and call the Korean wrong. Then they end up killing the dog or cat anyway because no one adopted it and, like you mentioned, the meat that could have fed someone has gone to waste.
Thank you. That sounded right to me. India was having a rat problem in one of their provinces. The had some chiefs figure out a way to fix them to eat. They went out to the people and showed the people how to eat them and provide protein to the food. The rat problem went away. Hey, kids, the rats are on, wash your hands.
Quote from: The Troll on August 12, 2010, 02:46:08 PM
Thank you. That sounded right to me. India was having a rat problem in one of their provinces. The had some chiefs figure out a way to fix them to eat. They went out to the people and showed the people how to eat them and provide protein to the food. The rat problem went away. Hey, kids, the rats are on, wash your hands.
Now that might make me turn vegetarian real quick......eeeeeewwwww
Quote from: me on August 12, 2010, 03:10:17 PM
Now that might make me turn vegetarian real quick......eeeeeewwwww
Would you eat a squirrel, a rabbit their are rodents, just like the rat. If the rat has clean food and clean water, I would imagine it would taste like squirrel.
Want a bite of my rat. Crispy Fried Critters. Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Quote from: The Troll on August 12, 2010, 04:51:21 PM
Would you eat a squirrel, a rabbit their are rodents, just like the rat. If the rat has clean food and clean water, I would imagine it would taste like squirrel.
Want a bite of my rat. Crispy Fried Critters. Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Don't eat squirrel or rabbit. :no: Yes, I've tried both but don't like it.
Have eaten them all, plus some other more exotic critters, including insects.
Only one I absolutely cannot tolerate is muskrat, no matter how it is dressed up.
:puke: ...on these last few posts.
Quote from: me on August 12, 2010, 03:10:17 PM
Now that might make me turn vegetarian real quick......eeeeeewwwww
Uh-Huh. With your cooking abilities and you had been starving for several weeks. A big fat rat come tippy toeing past you. BLAMB! :smash: You would take your club and kill that fat sucker. Got rat? :yes: :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on August 12, 2010, 04:51:21 PM
Would you eat a squirrel, a rabbit their are rodents, just like the rat. If the rat has clean food and clean water, I would imagine it would taste like squirrel.
Want a bite of my rat. Crispy Fried Critters. Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
I grew up eating squirrels and rabbits (and the occasional groundhog.) Sometimes it was the only meat we had. My grandmother used to make the most delicious squirrel dumplings!
Quote from: Olias on August 13, 2010, 10:10:30 AM
I grew up eating squirrels and rabbits (and the occasional groundhog.) Sometimes it was the only meat we had. My grandmother used to make the most delicious squirrel dumplings!
I have had fried squirrel and fried rabbit.........but, the squirrel dumplings is one I never heard of.... :spooked: :biggrin:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 13, 2010, 01:16:28 PM
I have had fried squirrel and fried rabbit.........but, the squirrel dumplings is one I never heard of.... :spooked: :biggrin:
Yeah, You kids have missed out on a lot of good things. It tickles me when you go to the grocery store and you have some Swiss chard, kale, turnip greens or broccoli and the young girl at the register ask, "what's this" Sometimes I'll say you haven't been eat your green properly. They will say, I don't like greens. I ask one girl at Kroger, what are you going to do about you own kids. She smiled and said, believe me they will eat them.
Quote from: The Troll on August 13, 2010, 08:16:21 AM
Uh-Huh. With your cooking abilities and you had been starving for several weeks. A big fat rat come tippy toeing past you. BLAMB! :smash: You would take your club and kill that fat sucker. Got rat? :yes: :biggrin:
I'd have pretend it was a small chicken or something otherwise I'd be eatin' dandelions, berries, and nuts. I'm sure I could figure out a way to freeze dandelion flowers to have them ready to fix in the off season.
Quote from: me on August 13, 2010, 03:25:04 PM
I'd have pretend it was a small chicken or something otherwise I'd be eatin' dandelions, berries, and nuts. I'm sure I could figure out a way to freeze dandelion flowers to have them ready to fix in the off season.
Dehydrate them. . . works great.
Quote from: Palehorse on August 13, 2010, 04:47:39 PM
Dehydrate them. . . works great.
Give me fried rat over dried dandelion flowers. Blaaaak. :no:
Quote from: The Troll on August 13, 2010, 05:30:14 PM
Give me fried rat over dried dandelion flowers. Blaaaak. :no:
I don't know about dried but fried dandelion flowers are good. My daughter in Tn fixed them every spring. She shops in her yard for greens of all kinds. She took what little I taught her and went to a new level with it. I don't worry about her or her family ever starving for sure.
Hum, did we get slightly off topic here with the rat food talk??? Or was it the dogs being used for food talk.....hum....
Obviously no one cares about the fact that the city is instituting draconian laws to suck the poor people of this community dry!
Quote from: Palehorse on August 13, 2010, 06:50:52 PM
Obviously no one cares about the fact that the city is instituting draconian laws to suck the poor people of this community dry!
I certainly hope they don't get it passed. I don't have a pet and really don't want the responsibility of one but I feel no one should be forced to have their animal neutered/spayed if they choose not to as long as they are responsible about it.
What's sad is there may be a lot more stray's around if that gets passed because people will be dumping their animals for fear of getting caught.
How timely! :rolleyes:
Spay-Neuter Services of Indiana has suspended providing financial assistance for low-income pet owners.
The organization has been hit with "overwhelming requests and dwindling donations and grants," president Juli Erhart-Graves said in a release.
http://www.indystar.com/article/20100814/NEWS/100814009/Spay-neuter-clinic-denies-requests (http://www.indystar.com/article/20100814/NEWS/100814009/Spay-neuter-clinic-denies-requests)
So I guess those unable to afford to get their animals fixed are just SOL!
Quote from: Palehorse on August 14, 2010, 07:27:02 PM
How timely! :rolleyes:
Spay-Neuter Services of Indiana has suspended providing financial assistance for low-income pet owners.
The organization has been hit with "overwhelming requests and dwindling donations and grants," president Juli Erhart-Graves said in a release.
http://www.indystar.com/article/20100814/NEWS/100814009/Spay-neuter-clinic-denies-requests (http://www.indystar.com/article/20100814/NEWS/100814009/Spay-neuter-clinic-denies-requests)
So I guess those unable to afford to get their animals fixed are just SOL!
Yep, good timing.....Like I mentioned in the other post, if it's passed be prepared for a bunch of stray's to be showin' up.
Quote from: me on August 14, 2010, 09:32:03 PM
Yep, good timing.....Like I mentioned in the other post, if it's passed be prepared for a bunch of stray's to be showin' up.
Nothing like varmint huntin!
Quote from: Palehorse on August 14, 2010, 09:48:48 PM
Nothing like varmint huntin!
One question for the Do Gooders, what in hell are you're going to do with the fine money. Put in the main fund where you can screw it away. Or you going to up back into caring for unwanted animals.
Are you going to improve the care of unwanted animals and the quicker and faster way of euthanizing the animals.
Most likely it will be just as stupid as the unenforceable law you're thinking about passing. Who's the brain that thought of this anyway. I quit sure there is a lot of people who would not vote for him the next time.