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Title: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Sandy Eggo on April 20, 2010, 09:52:07 PM
and apparently none of the teabaggers do. Watch this:

http://pubrecord.org/multimedia/7459/partiers-this-america/

It's truely sad to see the number of people who are severly misinformed. If they want to protest, then I think that's great, but at least know something about the damn issues!
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Henry Hawk on April 20, 2010, 10:49:48 PM
based upon Lolly's theory....video is NOT an acceptable source...... :no:

so, I have to say that that could have easily been a well edited and documentary with fakes and staged performers to make teabaggers look like morons..

Listen, I have been to a teaparty....and I know several who have attended.....and they are NOT the goofballs that are being portrayed...which makes YOU fall victim of your OWN thread Some people don't think for themselves

..... :razz: because you went to a CLEARLY a left wing site to get your source.....c'mon Sandy... :no:
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Locutus on April 20, 2010, 11:33:12 PM
If that isn't a picture of exactly that the term "lowest common denominator" means, I don't know what is. 
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: me on April 21, 2010, 02:27:32 AM
Now for the "real" tea party group.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSpuMAkhu8E&feature=player_embedded

Watch some of these videos and I think you might find out the lame stream media is portraying them completely wrong.

Here is the site this video was taken from http://www.teapartypatriots.tv/  and of course you won't find any of these people on MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, or NBC because they don't want you to see what the tea partiers are really all about.

My guess is you not only won't watch the video I posted the link to but you won't bother to go to the site link and watch any of the others either. 
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Sandy Eggo on April 21, 2010, 06:17:45 AM
You know what gives my video and my comment creditability? People that I encounter on a daily basis making the exact same statements who are unable to fully discuss the issues. The just continuiously mimick Faux talking heads and rightwing propaganda sites and email. That includes forum folk.

Oh and Henry, I expect you to call "me" on her "source" also.
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: LOsborne on April 21, 2010, 08:02:21 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 20, 2010, 10:49:48 PM
based upon Lolly's theory....video is NOT an acceptable source......

Not true, Henry. Undocumented video is not acceptable evidence. First generation video, or clips with a clear chain of possession with all edits listed (such as cell phone video sold to a news-venue or blackmailer of established reliability,) is acceptable evidence.
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Moonglow on April 21, 2010, 08:05:06 AM
with Sarah at the helm of the Tea Farty, I doubt it makes it past the first election season.
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Henry Hawk on April 21, 2010, 08:11:10 AM
Quote from: LOsborne on April 21, 2010, 08:02:21 AM
Not true, Henry. Undocumented video is not acceptable evidence. First generation video, or clips with a clear chain of possession with all edits listed (such as cell phone video sold to a news-venue or blackmailer of established reliability,) is acceptable evidence.

based on what and who?.... :razz:

did I miss a forum memo, that told of the rules of video evidence?.... :razz:
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Henry Hawk on April 21, 2010, 08:36:17 AM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 21, 2010, 06:17:45 AM
You know what gives my video and my comment creditability? People that I encounter on a daily basis making the exact same statements who are unable to fully discuss the issues. The just continuiously mimick Faux talking heads and rightwing propaganda sites and email. That includes forum folk.

Oh and Henry, I expect you to call "me" on her "source" also.

and do you know what gives me's video and our comment creditability? The people that I have encountered on a daily basis that make the exact same statements as was in me's video.....THOSE people, are your everyday, blue collar, hard working, tax paying citizen's that I work with....these people are real, and not fake.....you can hide behind any delusion you want, but the TRUTH will prevail this November...

the video you supplies is CLEARLY a peice of left wing propaganda, who cherry picked a few morons or people who was "staged" in that crowd....I have no doubt there are morons in every crowd you face, but the vast majority of these folks ARE not represented by that video....I can tell you that for a fact.....if you want to believe it or not, I don't care....
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: The Troll on April 21, 2010, 08:39:44 AM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 21, 2010, 06:17:45 AM
You know what gives my video and my comment creditability? People that I encounter on a daily basis making the exact same statements who are unable to fully discuss the issues. The just continuiously mimick Faux talking heads and rightwing propaganda sites and email. That includes forum folk.

Oh and Henry, I expect you to call "me" on her "source" also.

    Watching the Teabagger and the way they party, is absolutely incredible.  What is the old saying, BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER.  Do you really want these nuts running our country.

   Watching some old woman, who's definitely over  65 carring a sign which says.  Vote against the Health Care Bill, but leave my medicare alone.  Then when they talk to her.  Everything she says, comes from Fox News and  Republican hate radio.  Did you know that 94% of the talk radio is Conservative.  Hell, I can't even listen to AM radio in my car anymore.  Republicans, Religious Preachers, and Sports, that's all there is.

   Now I like guns.  I have several and I also have a life time carry permit.  Would I carry a loaded or even an unload gun into a crowd of crazy Teabaggers?  NO, NO, NO!  4 or 5 nuts can over come anyone and take the gun away from them.

  Carring signs where they have Obama painted to look like Hitler.  Give me a break.  Loonies, crazy and total stupidity.

  We have one old bird, who say that the Constitution is unchangeable.  Nothing that doesn't change dies.   Look at all of the species that  has walked the earth and couldn't change, they all died, became extinst.  Even the Universe, 35 Billion years old and maybe older is in constant flux, changing with sun blowing up, Novas and is very slowly dieing.  Everything changes.  Even rocks change.  Even most of soil we have was once rocks.

  I will guarantee one thing if you put the Republican back in, the same thing will happen, just like under George W. Bush.  One thing about the Republicans and Teaparyers, they alway step on their dicks and F**k every thing.  With Greed and athoritarian power over the common masses.

The Troll :trustme:
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Sandy Eggo on April 21, 2010, 08:48:11 AM
Yep, and unfortunately Henry is neck deep in the kool aide and although he doesn't intend to, only supports my video and previous comments.

Henry, me's video would have creditability IF there were any evidence that teabaggers were anything except ill-informed nutjobs. I encounter and talk to these "ordinary" people every day and they don't have a clue. They haven't been planted and they truely believe everything they see on Faux commentary.
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Henry Hawk on April 21, 2010, 09:02:36 AM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 21, 2010, 08:48:11 AM
Yep, and unfortunately Henry is neck deep in the kool aide and although he doesn't intend to, only supports my video and previous comments.

Henry, me's video would have creditability IF there were any evidence that teabaggers were anything except ill-informed nutjobs. I encounter and talk to these "ordinary" people every day and they don't have a clue. They haven't been planted and they truely believe everything they see on Faux commentary.

November Sandy.....November.... ;)
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Henry Hawk on April 21, 2010, 09:24:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebmTCfzHi0M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebmTCfzHi0M)

Sandy, PLEASE watch this video....it fits your claims, but only support mine...it shows the il-informed liberals out there that are spoon fed by the main stream media....

especially the last minute of this one.... :rolleyes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVX-c07uefc&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVX-c07uefc&feature=related)

and this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uyJSXCZRpc&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uyJSXCZRpc&feature=related)

and PLEASE watch this one EVERYONE it is a couple of minutes...and it show exactly the kind of mentality that those on the left who voted for Obama.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkWFzvITkO0&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkWFzvITkO0&feature=related)   :rolleyes: ;D   this is AMAZING....and YOU complain about a few idiots at a tea party?..c'mon
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Sandy Eggo on April 21, 2010, 10:01:43 AM
I stand corrected. You're drowning in kool-aid.
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Henry Hawk on April 21, 2010, 10:14:32 AM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 21, 2010, 10:01:43 AM
I stand corrected. You're drowning in kool-aid.

that's pretty much how I figured you would respond....you are very full of yourself...and guilty of what you are accusing others of...

take a long look in the mirror will ya...
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Sandy Eggo on April 21, 2010, 10:50:52 AM
You don't really know what I'm guilty of save pointing out the obvious ignorance of other people.

I don't discuss issues here or in real life anymore, b/c it's futile and I'm tired. I'm tired of trying to discuss issues w/people who have NO desire to actually learn about the subject matter that they're trying to argue about.

If I'm guilty of anything, it's researching SO much about the various issues that I find stupidity intolerable. It bothers me that people can't distinguish between fact and fiction and even further don't care to.

I like what I see in my mirror.
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: me on April 21, 2010, 10:54:15 AM
Ah, Chase Whiteside is the new Michael Moore.  http://newleftmedia.com/  I'm sure you can learn a lot from those mini documentary's he's putting together.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Henry Hawk on April 21, 2010, 11:14:00 AM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 21, 2010, 10:50:52 AM
You don't really know what I'm guilty of save pointing out the obvious ignorance of other people.

I don't discuss issues here or in real life anymore, b/c it's futile and I'm tired. I'm tired of trying to discuss issues w/people who have NO desire to actually learn about the subject matter that they're trying to argue about.

If I'm guilty of anything, it's researching SO much about the various issues that I find stupidity intolerable. It bothers me that people can't distinguish between fact and fiction and even further don't care to.

I like what I see in my mirror.

I feel that same as you do........and I have gotten VERY tired at times....we are on the complete opposite ends of perspectives....what bothers me, is some of the people on here act as if they are on such a higher superiority level of intelligence, because "THEY" research and study, and everyone else or just morons....I was/am not trying to be insulting, just pointing out that you are making accusations of people being un-informed...and I pointed out plenty of un-informed folks, but you ignore them...it's just tea baggers....I find that a tad hypocritical.
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Henry Hawk on April 21, 2010, 11:14:55 AM
Quote from: me on April 21, 2010, 10:54:15 AM
Ah, Chase Whiteside is the new Michael Moore.  http://newleftmedia.com/  I'm sure you can learn a lot from those mini documentary's he's putting together.   :rolleyes:
but the videos I posted are just right wing propaganda....
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Sandy Eggo on April 21, 2010, 11:43:03 AM
People who research completely and correctly and learn ARE intelluctually superior to those who do not.

BTW - the video wasn't intended to teach you anything. I was illustrating a point. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Henry Hawk on April 21, 2010, 11:55:37 AM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 21, 2010, 11:43:03 AM
People who research completely and correctly and learn ARE intelluctually superior to those who do not.

BTW - the video wasn't intended to teach you anything. I was illustrating a point. :rolleyes:

and YOU are putting yourself into that superior class, right?...and YOU know for a fact that those who disagree with you just listen to Rush...right?...is THAT pretty much what you are saying?....
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Sandy Eggo on April 21, 2010, 12:00:17 PM
No, that's not what I'm saying.
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Henry Hawk on April 21, 2010, 12:02:48 PM
and my video was stressing a point as well... :yes:
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: me on April 21, 2010, 12:31:55 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 21, 2010, 12:02:48 PM
and my video was stressing a point as well... :yes:
As were mine.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 21, 2010, 11:43:03 AM
People who research completely and correctly and learn ARE intelluctually superior to those who do not.

BTW - the video wasn't intended to teach you anything. I was illustrating a point. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Sandy Eggo on April 21, 2010, 12:45:25 PM
*sigh*

See what I mean? You can't even come up w/your own material.
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: me on April 21, 2010, 01:40:47 PM
HH could you help me figure this out?  A video from a left wing propaganda person is more legit than a video that comes from a rightwing group and we're supposed to take their "proof" as gospel rather than taking the time to look up and show something that contradicts it and they tell us we can't think for ourselves?????????? :confused: 

Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Henry Hawk on April 21, 2010, 01:49:56 PM
Quote from: me on April 21, 2010, 01:40:47 PM
HH could you help me figure this out?  A video from a left wing propaganda person is more legit than a video that comes from a rightwing group and we're supposed to take their "proof" as gospel rather than taking the time to look up and show something that contradicts it and they tell us we can't think for ourselves?????????? :confused: 

The best I can come up with is, that it is just the liberal mentality....THEY WANT to be right SO  bad, that they simply ignore what the truth is.....just like the tea parties............MILLIONS of Americans are demonstrating their "dislike" of our elected officials....and all the left can see is a few hicks carrying some ignorant signs...........but refuse to listen to the good, honest, hard working folks there, which consume the vast majority of the attendees...

Me, you and I both can see the truth, and we both know that we will see these truths come to light in November...so, maybe we should just sit back and let these guys bash, and demonize the right all they want...because THAT is all they can do....what ya think?
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: The Troll on April 21, 2010, 02:17:49 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 21, 2010, 01:49:56 PM
The best I can come up with is, that it is just the liberal mentality....THEY WANT to be right SO  bad, that they simply ignore what the truth is.....just like the tea parties............MILLIONS of Americans are demonstrating their "dislike" of our elected officials....and all the left can see is a few hicks carrying some ignorant signs...........but refuse to listen to the good, honest, hard working folks there, which consume the vast majority of the attendees...

Me, you and I both can see the truth, and we both know that we will see these truths come to light in November...so, maybe we should just sit back and let these guys bash, and demonize the right all they want...because THAT is all they can do....what ya think?

  The Republican Party has become one on the most demonic and evil party we have ever had in this country.  They, with the teaparty are begining to take on the persona of the American Nazi Party.  All they need is the Nazi salute and the Nazi goose step.  Just look at them with all of their hate and all of their guns.  With Sara Paylin and Michell Backman, saying, grab your bibles and guns and with Glen Beck as their religious leader.  Somebody say Amen. :pray: :pray: :pray:

The Troll :trustme:
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Henry Hawk on April 21, 2010, 02:37:48 PM
It amazes me how delusional people are in this day and time...scared of Palin? Michelle Bachman?...Glen Beck?...

THIS is how the Mainstream Media has mezmorized the liberal sheep....


somebody want to give me an amen?.....never mind...this is not even funny anymore, it is becoming somewhat alarming how this nation is becoming SO divided.....and this POTUS was going to fix this problem....
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Sandy Eggo on April 21, 2010, 02:50:08 PM
Why would I need a video to illustrate my point when "me" and Henry are such willing and glowing examples?

Please...stop...don't try to think, you'll just hurt yourselves.
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Henry Hawk on April 21, 2010, 02:54:40 PM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 21, 2010, 02:50:08 PM
Why would I need a video to illustrate my point when "me" and Henry are such willing and glowing examples?

Please...stop...don't try to think, you'll just hurt yourselves.

It has become very clear to me, that you are a victim of your own crime....like troll, you are no different, you just have better penmanship...I hear people on the left sayin the exact same thing that you have been saying....it is all well written, and thought out, you just have to mimic it in your own words....

I cannot quite figure if I am amused or alarmed?.....mostly just amused... :razz:
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Sandy Eggo on April 21, 2010, 02:58:01 PM
See what I mean :biggrin:
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: me on April 21, 2010, 03:05:58 PM
Hum......

Crowd at DC rally

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDm9j2s39ww&NR=1


Speaker at Washington DC rally
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDm9j2s39ww&NR=1

MSNBC report on Washington DC rally
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ3nODc3Dog&NR=1

John Voight speaking at the DC rally
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNbsaZ3tHjc&feature=PlayList&p=379344EA360BFE54&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=17


Was he at the same rally?   I'd really like you to watch my videos and give your take on this Sandy.  Of course we all know what "your take"  is of my videos will be I'd just like you to give me a logical explanation of the very noticeable differences here as far as the crowd and the stage. 

http://pubrecord.org/multimedia/7459/partiers-this-america/  (this is your link btw)

On Thursday, April 15, Tea Partiers from around the country gathered in the nation's capital to protest
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Sandy Eggo on April 21, 2010, 03:42:43 PM
Since you already "know" my take, why should I bother?

You assume too much.

I will watch them, but I can't right at the moment.
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: me on April 21, 2010, 03:49:50 PM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 21, 2010, 03:42:43 PM
Since you already "know" my take, why should I bother?

You assume too much.

I will watch them, but I can't right at the moment.

I appreciate you taking the time to watch them.
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Sandy Eggo on April 21, 2010, 09:23:21 PM
Quote from: me on April 21, 2010, 03:05:58 PM
Hum......

Crowd at DC rally

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDm9j2s39ww&NR=1


Speaker at Washington DC rally
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDm9j2s39ww&NR=1




Look at the dates, these are not from the same rally.

Quote from: me on April 21, 2010, 03:05:58 PM

John Voight speaking at the DC rally
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNbsaZ3tHjc&feature=PlayList&p=379344EA360BFE54&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=17

I don't know what your point is here. I'm not sure why anyone would care what John Voight's opinion is on the state of the union, but even supposing they do, his speech is obviously for the cheap seats"

1. "Our senators and congressmen are being bullied and bribed...."
2.  "Dangerous and destructive healthcare bill"
3. "It is very clear that he will turn this America into a socialist America"
4. "His bullying and arrogance can't stop"
5. "He will be a one term president, but the tracks he lays will be devistating to our country for years to come.

I'm going to stop there...

Again, what's your point? He's hardly a thinker and that's obvious in the rhetoric of his speech. His speech is almost identical to the comments of the people in my video.

Oh and love the sign in the background "Trust in God, not our Government". How could I have been SO wrong about these people? :rolleyes:


Quote from: me on April 21, 2010, 03:05:58 PM
Was he at the same rally?   I'd really like you to watch my videos and give your take on this Sandy.  Of course we all know what "your take"  is of my videos will be I'd just like you to give me a logical explanation of the very noticeable differences here as far as the crowd and the stage. 

http://pubrecord.org/multimedia/7459/partiers-this-america/  (this is your link btw)

On Thursday, April 15, Tea Partiers from around the country gathered in the nation's capital to protest


Sorry, but there really isn't a difference.

As for this video:

Quote from: me on April 21, 2010, 03:05:58 PM

MSNBC report on Washington DC rally
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ3nODc3Dog&NR=1

I guess they do okay as long as they aren't expected to explain why they believe somethingor allowed to speak at all for that matter.
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: me on April 21, 2010, 09:51:04 PM
Ok you go with that.  Unless there were 3 rally's the one being shown in your link isn't anything like the ones in my links including MSNBC's.   The John Voight link was meant to show you the crowd more than anything.  You're telling me you really don't see a difference in your link of the tax day rally and mine? 
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Sandy Eggo on April 22, 2010, 05:54:25 AM
The only difference I see is that the people weren't allowed to talk in the MSN video.

Why don't you share w/me what you see as the difference.
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: The Troll on April 22, 2010, 07:30:11 AM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 22, 2010, 05:54:25 AM
The only difference I see is that the people weren't allowed to talk in the MSN video.

Why don't you share w/me what you see as the difference.

  Sandy you are just talking to yourself.  The people you have been talking the facts to.  Are people who walk around with their head up their ass and they have a shitty outlook on life.

   Keep on, keeping on.  Maybe something will stick to them.  Unless their like John Wayne toilet paper, not even shit will stick to them, unless it comes from Fox or the teabaggers brainy leaders.

The Troll.  :pray:  :pray:  :pray:
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: me on April 22, 2010, 07:16:29 PM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 22, 2010, 05:54:25 AM
The only difference I see is that the people weren't allowed to talk in the MSN video.

Why don't you share w/me what you see as the difference.
Weren't allowed to talk? 
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Sandy Eggo on April 23, 2010, 11:19:24 AM
Unless I missed something, I didn't see participant interviews in the MSN video.
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: me on April 23, 2010, 12:28:01 PM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 23, 2010, 11:19:24 AM
Unless I missed something, I didn't see participant interviews in the MSN video.
That doesn't mean they weren't allowed to talk to anyone.
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Moonglow on April 23, 2010, 12:35:14 PM
I am sure they talked to someone in their lifetime, but at the moment it seems they r k-not :yes:
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Sandy Eggo on April 23, 2010, 01:09:20 PM
For the love of Bubba, me! I think you know what I meant. The people in my video looked like morons b/c they have crazy ideas and worse no frame of reference to support them.

The people in your video could have been just as crazy, but we won't know that b/c they weren't interviewed.

You're trying to use an orange to say apples taste good.

Show me a teabagger interview where the interviewees are sane and even better not regurgitating Faux noise commentary and I might just be convinced that some of those yahoos can think for themselves.

If you want me to honestly consider something, at least be honest about it. :smile:
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Henry Hawk on April 23, 2010, 04:02:58 PM
http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&mpid=56 (http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&mpid=56)

Sandy, here is a link that exemplifies what a tea party is all about...it was from the one in Indy last week....

Please watch this one and give me and me your honest feed back...

actually go when you get to the site, go on the left and click on 'hoosier daddy'... :yes:
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Moonglow on April 23, 2010, 05:16:22 PM
Teabagging is a slang term for the act of a man placing his scrotum in the mouth of a sexual partner. Do u need the pic too?
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Sandy Eggo on April 23, 2010, 09:37:21 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 23, 2010, 04:02:58 PM
http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&mpid=56 (http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&mpid=56)

Sandy, here is a link that exemplifies what a tea party is all about...it was from the one in Indy last week....

Please watch this one and give me and me your honest feed back...

actually go when you get to the site, go on the left and click on 'hoosier daddy'... :yes:

I listened, but to me, it's more of the same.

So, the crowd didn't boo during the prayer. They wouldn't have, because disrupting a prayer would be disrespectful to God. I guess I can give the person saying the prayer a couple points for including an administration that they clearly  hate.

Other than that, Whittle may not come across as fanatical as Palin, but his speech was full of nonsense. For example how he used a few random, out of context comments, to make the claim that congress isn't following the constitution. So, I wonder if he was as outraged when Bush and Co stomped all over the constitution by using illegal wiretaps?  His comments about how far the Democrats have come from the initial creation of the party and while that's a true statement,  the same could be said about the Republican party, I wonder what the originators of the Republican Party and Abraham Lincoln would say about the Republican party today.

I thought it was kinda cheap, the way he spoke about the veteran's "paying the price" for freedom, so the "regular" people don't have to go up on the hill and shed blood to save the country,  which to me, was eerily similar to the Sunday school lesson where Jesus "paid the price" so that the rest of us can be saved. Although considering that most of the audience was probably right wing conservative christians, they probably lapped that familiar tale right up.


I wonder if anyone fact-checked  him on the 30% of all congressional races go unchallenged remark.


The "knock the communists right out of their boots" comment was a bit over the top.

As I said, nothing profound, nothing intelligent, more of the same. His goal, was to feed the crowd w/what they wanted to hear and believe. Seriously, people make it WAY to easy to be lead around by the nose. People reference the comments of his and people like him, as if that's all the information they need and that's the problem I have with this.

I think that people should protest if they're unhappy with how things are going and I have all the respect in the world for them, even if I don't agree, if they are informed and have fact based logical reasons for their stance. Anything less is just drama.
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Henry Hawk on April 23, 2010, 10:26:28 PM
but the insane protests against Bush was full of highly intelligent folks who wanted to "kill bush".....http://www.binscorner.com/pages/d/death-threats-against-bush-at-protests-i.html

and Hillary thought these guys was patriots .....

it comes down to you simply are just a bleeding heart liberal, and cannot understand why hard working, tax-paying Americans don't like the rhetoric of this corrupt congress...sure Bush spent WAY too much money and had STILL been spending money like these bandits are, with unemployment near 10% and inflation taking off....there would be the SAME conservative tea-party movements...I can assure you....like Whittle said, this is NOT a republican thing it is an Americans thing were people are SICK to DEATH of spending money we don't have to spend....Obama with his trillion dollars spending bills has sent these folks through the roof.....

and I assure you there are several liberals who are fact checking everything that is said at these parties, just hoping to add to their demonization of these fine people....I am so very proud to associate myself with them...and that aint' no joke.

Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: The Troll on April 24, 2010, 12:04:05 AM
  Henry, I was listening to a very well know Professor on the banking industry and the stockmarket, today.  He said, that if Obama hadn't have bailed out the banks  we would be in a worse depression than Hoover have ever thought about.

  He also said, we still are still endanger of having a depression, if the Republican don't start working to get us out of this problem we are now in.  They are are going to have to quit saying NO. 

  As far a being a Liberel, a progressive, a person who thinks people deserves to have health care in one of the riches country.  Who think the working people comes first in this country, who thinks the super rich, the bankers and Wallstreet thieves should be keep under control and the unions are one of the best thing that has happened to the USA,  I AM GUILTY.

The Troll  :no1:
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Sandy Eggo on April 24, 2010, 07:39:42 AM
I'll take "bleeding heart liberal" as a compliment.

I am one of the hard-working tax paying Americans and I do understand what I'm happy or not happy about, but from what I see, most of the "good hard-working folk" on the right who are complaining are basing their gripe on buzz words like "tyranny", "communism", "socialism" and are completely clueless of the facts.

But you know, fear propaganda worked for 8 years so why fix what ain't broken? *shrug*
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Sandy Eggo on April 24, 2010, 08:48:07 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 23, 2010, 10:26:28 PM
but the insane protests against Bush was full of highly intelligent folks who wanted to "kill bush".....http://www.binscorner.com/pages/d/death-threats-against-bush-at-protests-i.html

and Hillary thought these guys was patriots .....

Source?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5967942/Barack-Obama-faces-30-death-threats-a-day-stretching-US-Secret-Service.html
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Moonglow on April 24, 2010, 09:05:23 AM
How come the Tea Fartiers never protest against local govts. that are the true culprits of tax raising?
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: The Troll on April 24, 2010, 09:39:03 AM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 24, 2010, 07:39:42 AM
I'll take "bleeding heart liberal" as a compliment.

But you know, fear propaganda worked for 8 years so why fix what ain't broken? *shrug*

Sandy, I know you probably know this, it was a typo.  To make the smiley shrug you have to use this before and after shurg. ( : ) before and this ( : ) after :shrug:   :yes: :biggrin:  The Troll :no1:
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: The Troll on April 24, 2010, 10:23:47 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 21, 2010, 09:24:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebmTCfzHi0M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebmTCfzHi0M)

Sandy, PLEASE watch this video....it fits your claims, but only support mine...it shows the il-informed liberals out there that are spoon fed by the main stream media....

especially the last minute of this one.... :rolleyes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVX-c07uefc&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVX-c07uefc&feature=related)

and this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uyJSXCZRpc&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uyJSXCZRpc&feature=related)

and PLEASE watch this one EVERYONE it is a couple of minutes...and it show exactly the kind of mentality that those on the left who voted for Obama.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkWFzvITkO0&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkWFzvITkO0&feature=related)   :rolleyes: ;D   this is AMAZING....and YOU complain about a few idiots at a tea party?..c'mon

  I watch the Youtube's, I watch the meathead Hannity.  Your just like Achmed the dead terrorist when the geetar man plays the wrong song and Achmed calls him a "Racist Bastard"  What you had us, watch sure was made by racist bastards.  :trustme:

  Folks I am sorry I can't print out the website to go to.  I don't know how.  But just go to YouTubes, type in Jeff Dunham and play Achmed the dead terrorist sing Jingle Bombs.  I think I going to start calling Henry, Achmed, I think you, just might be a Racist Bastard.  Now don't blow a gasket, I did come right out and say your a racist bastard, I wouldn't want you to have a stroke in you 50's, kid.  :flap: :flap:  :flap: :wacko:

The Troll :iloveyou:


The T
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Henry Hawk on April 24, 2010, 12:35:48 PM
Troll, you couldn't be more wrong is you woke and your head was sewn to the carpet..... ;)
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: The Troll on April 24, 2010, 01:45:04 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 24, 2010, 12:35:48 PM
Troll, you couldn't be more wrong is you woke and your head was sewn to the carpet..... ;)

  THANK YOU, THE TROLL.  :deadhorse:  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Sandy Eggo on April 24, 2010, 04:30:46 PM
Thank you, Clark W Griswald.
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: me on April 27, 2010, 02:41:08 AM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 24, 2010, 08:48:07 AM
Source?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5967942/Barack-Obama-faces-30-death-threats-a-day-stretching-US-Secret-Service.html

And you're calling the tea party movement violent?  :confused: Have you seen any of the tea partiers carrying these types of signs? This is out in the open...Can you imagine what would happen if a group had signs like that of Obama.  :eek:  Yep those protesters are a real class act.... :rolleyes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 23, 2010, 10:26:28 PM
but the insane protests against Bush was full of highly intelligent folks who wanted to "kill bush".....http://www.binscorner.com/pages/d/death-threats-against-bush-at-protests-i.html

and Hillary thought these guys was patriots .....

it comes down to you simply are just a bleeding heart liberal, and cannot understand why hard working, tax-paying Americans don't like the rhetoric of this corrupt congress...sure Bush spent WAY too much money and had STILL been spending money like these bandits are, with unemployment near 10% and inflation taking off....there would be the SAME conservative tea-party movements...I can assure you....like Whittle said, this is NOT a republican thing it is an Americans thing were people are SICK to DEATH of spending money we don't have to spend....Obama with his trillion dollars spending bills has sent these folks through the roof.....

and I assure you there are several liberals who are fact checking everything that is said at these parties, just hoping to add to their demonization of these fine people....I am so very proud to associate myself with them...and that aint' no joke.


Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: Sandy Eggo on April 27, 2010, 05:51:30 AM
Did you bump your head?
Title: Re: Some people don't think for themselves
Post by: The Troll on April 27, 2010, 06:48:11 PM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 27, 2010, 05:51:30 AM
Did you bump your head?

  You can't really break carbide (one of earths hardest metals.)  You can wear it down with diamond, but who wants to spend all that money and time.  She not worth it.