Are you ready to be carded if you buy a little booze and your under 50. Think about it and what do you think about it and who are the dumbasses that passed it.
The dumbass that passed it apparently was someone's man Mitch.
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The law, which was recently signed by Gov. Mitch Daniels, will require customers, purchasing alcohol to be carried out, to provide either a driver's license or another government-issued identification card or document that bears the customer's photo and date of birth. Anyone failing to check for valid ID in a sales transaction can be cited with a criminal penalty Class B misdemeanor.
The new law, Senate Enrolled Act 75, provides that it is a defense in criminal or administrative proceeding if the customer to whom the alcoholic beverages were sold appeared to be at least 50 years old.
http://heraldargus.com/articles/2010/03/30/news/local/doc4bb17b50a67ac878409970.txt
What difference does it make if they check ID or not. The law has been that if you walk into an establishment that serves alcohol, you must have ID on you anyway. Doesn't matter what your age is. As well, though it's rare, there are young people who have this disease called "Progeria" (Progeria (also known as "Hutchinson–Gilford progeria syndrome"[1], "Hutchinson–Gilford syndrome"[2], and "Progeria syndrome"[2]) is an extremely rare, severe, genetic condition wherein symptoms resembling aspects of aging are manifested at an early age.) Who just MIGHT get served if they have the strength to walk into a liquor store. (I am reaching here. LOL)
Regardless, the law covers buying alcohol for off premises consumption, not sitting in a bar or restaurant drinking it. This is not going to stop minors from receiving alcohol. I have known people from 21 to 75 to buy beer and give it to minors. Showing your ID every time you buy it won't change that if it's going to happen. All this does is protect the store employee's from prosecution for selling to minors. And THAT is not a bad thing at all. Hell, I have carded people that I knew were over 40....JUST to make sure they were carrying an ID on them.
Side note: That article I quoted did say that they are going to piss off some 70 and 80 year olds. LOL
That is just one part of the new bill, it also now allows;
a microbrewery to sell the brewery's beer for carryout on Sunday at the address for which the brewer's permit was issued.
Allows alcoholic beverages to be sold on election days.
Allows the holder of a retailer's permit to sell alcoholic beverages on Sunday from 7 a.m. until 3 a.m. the following day. (Under current law, the holder of a retailer permit may sell alcoholic beverages on Sunday from 10 a.m. until 12:30 a.m. the following day).
Makes it a Class B misdemeanor for an alcoholic beverage permittee or permittee's employee or agent to recklessly, knowingly, or intentionally sell, barter, exchange, provide, or furnish another person alcoholic beverages for carryout without first requiring the person to produce proof that the person is at least 21 years of age by: (1) a driver's license; (2) a government issued identification card; or (3) a government issued document; that bears the person's photograph and birth date. Provides that it is a defense in a criminal or administrative proceeding that the individual to whom the alcoholic beverages were sold appeared to be at least 50 years of age.
Provides that, in a criminal prosecution or proceeding before the alcohol and tobacco commission, it is a defense to a charge of unlawfully furnishing alcohol to a minor that the purchaser produced a government issued document bearing the purchaser's photograph and showing the purchaser to be at least 21 years of age.
Eliminates the requirement that a publicly owned airport be served by a scheduled commercial passenger airline in order for a restaurant located in the passenger terminal to be eligible for a permit to sell beer, wine, and liquor.
Allows an indoor theater located in a city having a population of more than 200,000 but less than 300,000 and that has been listed in the National Register of Historic places to: (1) be issued a one-way, two-way, or three-way permit to sell alcoholic beverages; and (2) to have children present. Requires alcohol servers, retailer permittees, or management representatives of retailer or dealer permittees to complete alcohol server training by May 1, 2011. (Current law requires completion of the training by January 1, 2010.)
Requires an applicant for a permit to sell alcoholic beverages in Marion County to file with the local board verification from a department of the consolidated city designated by ordinance that the applicant is in compliance with zoning requirements for the premises to be licensed.(Current law requires verification from the department of metropolitan development.)
The only thing I have to say to all that....I'm glad I have already passed my alcoholic server training. :biggrin:
While it would have no effect on me, being 55, rarely buy alcohol, and gave up smoking a long time ago, it still makes me mad. I can understand getting carded in your 20's if you are young looking, but once you hit 30, there should be no question, except in very rare cases. If the person could not look and tell I was way past 21, I'd tell them where to stick their products and walk right out. By the time you hit your late 20's a person should get the benefit of doubt.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 19, 2010, 01:00:33 PM
That is just one part of the new bill, it also now allows;
a microbrewery to sell the brewery's beer for carryout on Sunday at the address for which the brewer's permit was issued.
Allows alcoholic beverages to be sold on election days.
Allows the holder of a retailer's permit to sell alcoholic beverages on Sunday from 7 a.m. until 3 a.m. the following day. (Under current law, the holder of a retailer permit may sell alcoholic beverages on Sunday from 10 a.m. until 12:30 a.m. the following day).
Makes it a Class B misdemeanor for an alcoholic beverage permittee or permittee's employee or agent to recklessly, knowingly, or intentionally sell, barter, exchange, provide, or furnish another person alcoholic beverages for carryout without first requiring the person to produce proof that the person is at least 21 years of age by: (1) a driver's license; (2) a government issued identification card; or (3) a government issued document; that bears the person's photograph and birth date. Provides that it is a defense in a criminal or administrative proceeding that the individual to whom the alcoholic beverages were sold appeared to be at least 50 years of age.
Provides that, in a criminal prosecution or proceeding before the alcohol and tobacco commission, it is a defense to a charge of unlawfully furnishing alcohol to a minor that the purchaser produced a government issued document bearing the purchaser's photograph and showing the purchaser to be at least 21 years of age.
Eliminates the requirement that a publicly owned airport be served by a scheduled commercial passenger airline in order for a restaurant located in the passenger terminal to be eligible for a permit to sell beer, wine, and liquor.
Allows an indoor theater located in a city having a population of more than 200,000 but less than 300,000 and that has been listed in the National Register of Historic places to: (1) be issued a one-way, two-way, or three-way permit to sell alcoholic beverages; and (2) to have children present. Requires alcohol servers, retailer permittees, or management representatives of retailer or dealer permittees to complete alcohol server training by May 1, 2011. (Current law requires completion of the training by January 1, 2010.)
Requires an applicant for a permit to sell alcoholic beverages in Marion County to file with the local board verification from a department of the consolidated city designated by ordinance that the applicant is in compliance with zoning requirements for the premises to be licensed.(Current law requires verification from the department of metropolitan development.)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 19, 2010, 01:00:33 PM
That is just one part of the new bill, it also now allows;
a microbrewery to sell the brewery's beer for carryout on Sunday at the address for which the brewer's permit was issued.
Allows alcoholic beverages to be sold on election days.
Allows the holder of a retailer's permit to sell alcoholic beverages on Sunday from 7 a.m. until 3 a.m. the following day. (Under current law, the holder of a retailer permit may sell alcoholic beverages on Sunday from 10 a.m. until 12:30 a.m. the following day).
Makes it a Class B misdemeanor for an alcoholic beverage permittee or permittee's employee or agent to recklessly, knowingly, or intentionally sell, barter, exchange, provide, or furnish another person alcoholic beverages for carryout without first requiring the person to produce proof that the person is at least 21 years of age by: (1) a driver's license; (2) a government issued identification card; or (3) a government issued document; that bears the person's photograph and birth date. Provides that it is a defense in a criminal or administrative proceeding that the individual to whom the alcoholic beverages were sold appeared to be at least 50 years of age.
Provides that, in a criminal prosecution or proceeding before the alcohol and tobacco commission, it is a defense to a charge of unlawfully furnishing alcohol to a minor that the purchaser produced a government issued document bearing the purchaser's photograph and showing the purchaser to be at least 21 years of age.
Eliminates the requirement that a publicly owned airport be served by a scheduled commercial passenger airline in order for a restaurant located in the passenger terminal to be eligible for a permit to sell beer, wine, and liquor.
Allows an indoor theater located in a city having a population of more than 200,000 but less than 300,000 and that has been listed in the National Register of Historic places to: (1) be issued a one-way, two-way, or three-way permit to sell alcoholic beverages; and (2) to have children present. Requires alcohol servers, retailer permittees, or management representatives of retailer or dealer permittees to complete alcohol server training by May 1, 2011. (Current law requires completion of the training by January 1, 2010.)
Requires an applicant for a permit to sell alcoholic beverages in Marion County to file with the local board verification from a department of the consolidated city designated by ordinance that the applicant is in compliance with zoning requirements for the premises to be licensed.(Current law requires verification from the department of metropolitan development.)
Thanks for being able to drink on election day. Now I can go into the booth, close the curtin, have a shot of 100 proof vodka, hold my nose, close my eyes and vote and not give a damn.
The Troll :mo1:
:biggrin: .. hey, we AGREE on something!!! ;D
Quote from: Mr442 on April 19, 2010, 02:54:36 PM
While it would have no effect on me, being 55, rarely buy alcohol, and gave up smoking a long time ago, it still makes me mad. I can understand getting carded in your 20's if you are young looking, but once you hit 30, there should be no question, except in very rare cases. If the person could not look and tell I was way past 21, I'd tell them where to stick their products and walk right out. By the time you hit your late 20's a person should get the benefit of doubt.
But the law says you MUST have ID on you when you purchase liquor, no matter what your age is. So why get upset if people are verifying it?
Other than age verification, why would anyone need an ID to buy booze? That's just plain B.S. to ask gramdpa for his ID to buy a six pack. Someone might get a poke in the nose over that. :rant:
Quote from: Mr442 on April 21, 2010, 11:54:59 AM
Other than age verification, why would anyone need an ID to buy booze? That's just plain B.S. to ask gramdpa for his ID to buy a six pack. Someone might get a poke in the nose over that. :rant:
Like I have said before on here, "common sense" does not exist anymore....we have to have laws in place to keep the greedy assed lawyers from suing the crap out of hard working innocent folks....like in this case, they are forcing cashiers at liquors stores to ask every one (practicly) to show their ID, so they don't offend someone who is trying to buy it underage....these are wickedly stupid times...
Quote from: Mr442 on April 21, 2010, 11:54:59 AM
... That's just plain B.S. to ask gramdpa for his ID to buy a six pack...
You use your grampa's ID to buy beer? Really? Hmmmm... somehow I thought you were older.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 21, 2010, 11:58:56 AM
Like I have said before on here, "common sense" does not exist anymore....we have to have laws in place to keep the greedy assed lawyers from suing the crap out of hard working innocent folks....like in this case, they are forcing cashiers at liquors stores to ask every one (practicly) to show their ID, so they don't offend someone who is trying to buy it underage....these are wickedly stupid times...
Not to mention DWI laws, required insurance for the auto, wearing a seat belt, I mean hell, when can a man drive like a man used to?
Quote from: LOsborne on April 21, 2010, 07:30:38 PM
You use your grampa's ID to buy beer? Really? Hmmmm... somehow I thought you were older.
Well, I am 55. I had a mental picture of some crusty old guy of 75 or 80 taking a swing at some poor clerk when being carded over a 6 pack of Falls City. :eek:
If they are trying to sell him Falls City...he should take a swing at them. :wink:
(http://www.beercansrus.com/mcart/images/fallscitywhitecan1.jpg)
WOW!...I didn't know they STILL made that beer.............My grandpa used to buy that beer...
Quote from: pariann on April 22, 2010, 09:10:14 AM
If they are trying to sell him Falls City...he should take a swing at them. :wink:
I had the same thought, Pari.
That was the beer of choice at the Montezuma Fish and Game Club for many years. Don't know if it still is, but I wouldn't be surprised. Those old river rats would drink anything. :eek:
No, I don't hang out there, but I know many who do.
Wonder what will happen when these homeless boozers and whine heads try to buy their poison of choice? Most of them don't have an ID because; they are homeless, no address, no phone. . .
they will filter after shave through a piece of bread to get alcohol.