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Title: Should dead Marine's dad pay $16,500 to Christan Wingnut picketers?
Post by: The Troll on April 02, 2010, 01:05:20 PM
  Federal court order the dad of a marine killed Iraq to pay the court cost of the crazy Christains who picketed his son's funeral.  Your thoughts.
Title: Re: Should dead Marine's dad pay $16,500 to Christan Wingnut picketers?
Post by: me on April 02, 2010, 03:26:46 PM
That is just wrong on soooo many levels and I think the judge that reversed that decision should be disbarred.  :rant: :mad:
Title: Re: Should dead Marine's dad pay $16,500 to Christan Wingnut picketers?
Post by: Anne on April 02, 2010, 07:58:03 PM
Absolutely not. These people disrupted a funeral and caused the family pain and made their suffering worse. They should be paying for the next thirty years, imo. I don't care whose funeral it was, they did a terrible thing.
Title: Re: Should dead Marine's dad pay $16,500 to Christan Wingnut picketers?
Post by: Sandy Eggo on April 03, 2010, 10:28:34 AM
They'll picket anyone to spread their message of hate religion:

http://wvgazette.com/News/201003290725?page=2&build=cache

I mean, good grief!, miners and mennonites?!? I thought that there was an article about the time that Westboro picketed the Sago funeral where a few hundred WVians turned on them...violently IIRC...but I can't find it. Maybe I dreamed it. :biggrin:

I despise their message, but it's protected under the 1st Amendment.  I'm wondering if this could be a case where the constitutional rights of one infringes on the constitutional rights of another. How is that decision made?

Title: Re: Should dead Marine's dad pay $16,500 to Christan Wingnut picketers?
Post by: The Troll on April 04, 2010, 11:24:10 AM
  Sandy Eggo, you sure hit the nail on the head.  It's all about the Constitution.  For without the Constitution we would just be another enslaved nation.  Without the Constitution we wouldn't have the freedom to worship, freedom to bear arms, the freedom of speech and many more freedoms our Armed Forces have protected for us in their blood and sacrifice of the time in service of The United States of America.  Thank you so much for your wisdom. :yes:

The Troll  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Should dead Marine's dad pay $16,500 to Christan Wingnut picketers?
Post by: Anne on April 04, 2010, 07:49:19 PM
Doesn't free speech end when it impinges on the rights of others or harms others. You can't yell fire in a crowded room, it will get you in trouble every time.
Title: Re: Should dead Marine's dad pay $16,500 to Christan Wingnut picketers?
Post by: Henry Hawk on April 08, 2010, 10:18:15 AM
i just found an interesting tidbit, that I find very amusing..........Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist, the scumbucket piece of trash happens to be a devout democrat and has run in various Kansas Democratic Party primaries five times, but has never won....including races for governor in 1990, 1994, and 1998, receiving about 15 percent of the vote in 1998. In the 1992 Democratic Party primary for U.S. Senate, Phelps received 31 percent of the vote....Phelps ran for mayor of Topeka in 1993 and 1997.... ;D

I know, I haven't had any coffee yet this morning, and maybe it is not really THAT funny...but it made me giggle anyway... ;D

that guy really, really SUCKS!!!
Title: Re: Should dead Marine's dad pay $16,500 to Christan Wingnut picketers?
Post by: The Troll on April 08, 2010, 01:32:43 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 08, 2010, 10:18:15 AM
i just found an interesting tidbit, that I find very amusing..........Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist, the scumbucket piece of trash happens to be a devout democrat and has run in various Kansas Democratic Party primaries five times, but has never won....including races for governor in 1990, 1994, and 1998, receiving about 15 percent of the vote in 1998. In the 1992 Democratic Party primary for U.S. Senate, Phelps received 31 percent of the vote....Phelps ran for mayor of Topeka in 1993 and 1997.... ;D

I know, I haven't had any coffee yet this morning, and maybe it is not really THAT funny...but it made me giggle anyway... ;D

that guy really, really SUCKS!!!

  Well, he said he is a Christian man, he says he is  born again, the said he is Gods man, he says he is Jesus man and he said he was a Democrat.  I know one thing, he must not have been a good democrat because he wasn't elected by the Democrats, was he. :no: :no: :biggrin:

  Now let's talk about George W., he said he is Christian man, He said, he is born again,  He said, God told him to run for president,  he said God told to go to war with Iraq,  he was a drunk, he went AWOL from the Air force and he used dope. :yes: :yes: :yes:

  And you dumbass,Republican, Christians wingnut put him in office for 8 long years.  Yes, "you dumbass Christian people" put him in as President of The United States of America,  for 8 years and just look what has happen to our country.  Nice try Henry. :wink: :smile: :laugh: :laugh:

The Troll  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Should dead Marine's dad pay $16,500 to Christan Wingnut picketers?
Post by: The Troll on May 30, 2010, 11:24:18 PM
  Here it is Palehorse.  It's a crying shame.  But it is freedom of speech.  I just wish they would let the biker loose on them.  Break some heads.
Title: Re: Should dead Marine's dad pay $16,500 to Christan Wingnut picketers?
Post by: Palehorse on May 30, 2010, 11:37:36 PM
Quote from: The Troll on May 30, 2010, 11:24:18 PM
  Here it is Palehorse.  It's a crying shame.  But it is freedom of speech.  I just wish they would let the biker loose on them.  Break some heads.

PGR's are better than that, but let them TRY to get physical (WBC that is) and cracked heads will be the least of their problems I assure you!  :icon_twisted: :biggrin:
Title: Re: Should dead Marine's dad pay $16,500 to Christan Wingnut picketers?
Post by: rotflmao on May 31, 2010, 11:49:30 AM
Quote from: The Troll on April 08, 2010, 01:32:43 PM
  Well, he said he is a Christian man, he says he is  born again, the said he is Gods man, he says he is Jesus man and he said he was a Democrat.  I know one thing, he must not have been a good democrat because he wasn't elected by the Democrats, was he. :no: :no: :biggrin:

  Now let's talk about George W., he said he is Christian man, He said, he is born again,  He said, God told him to run for president,  he said God told to go to war with Iraq,  he was a drunk, he went AWOL from the Air force and he used dope. :yes: :yes: :yes:

  And you dumbass,Republican, Christians wingnut put him in office for 8 long years.  Yes, "you dumbass Christian people" put him in as President of The United States of America,  for 8 years and just look what has happen to our country.  Nice try Henry. :wink: :smile: :laugh: :laugh:

The Troll  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Boy Payless must love you. You keep stepping i it. What kind of democrat are you? Ever been elected? NO?

This we know about Phelps, he is not a good Christian. We can call ourselves a lot of things, you for instance say you fight for the little man....

Your what, 5' 6" or so?

Troll you are rabid about Republicans, Christians, are you as rabid about Libertarians, etc, Maoists, N.Korean Communists, Atheistic  Third World Dictators? Just trying to get a feel for your effed up politics.
Title: Re: Should dead Marine's dad pay $16,500 to Christan Wingnut picketers?
Post by: rotflmao on May 31, 2010, 11:50:36 AM
No, the Dad should not have to pay. But Bill O'Reilly picked up the bill. He paid it for him.
Title: Re: Should dead Marine's dad pay $16,500 to Christan Wingnut picketers?
Post by: Palehorse on May 31, 2010, 11:53:06 AM
Quote from: rotflmao on May 31, 2010, 11:50:36 AM
No, the Dad should not have to pay. But Bill O'Reilly picked up the bill. He paid it for him.

These idiots are now picketing the memorial services of Ronnie James Dio !!!!!
Title: Re: Should dead Marine's dad pay $16,500 to Christan Wingnut picketers?
Post by: me on May 31, 2010, 11:55:10 AM
Quote from: rotflmao on May 31, 2010, 11:50:36 AM
No, the Dad should not have to pay. But Bill O'Reilly picked up the bill. He paid it for him.
Yes, he did and I thought that quite admirable. 
Title: Re: Should dead Marine's dad pay $16,500 to Christan Wingnut picketers?
Post by: me on May 31, 2010, 11:57:23 AM
Quote from: Palehorse on May 31, 2010, 11:53:06 AM
These idiots are now picketing the memorial services of Ronnie James Dio !!!!!
They really need to be stopped. 
Title: Re: Should dead Marine's dad pay $16,500 to Christan Wingnut picketers?
Post by: Palehorse on May 31, 2010, 12:01:14 PM
Wonder how they'd feel about protestors showing up at their weekly prayer services and Sunday worship, with signs damning them to hell, calling them child molesters, and spewing accusations of zealotry?  :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: Should dead Marine's dad pay $16,500 to Christan Wingnut picketers?
Post by: LOsborne on May 31, 2010, 12:01:51 PM
I'm in. When do we leave?
Title: Re: Should dead Marine's dad pay $16,500 to Christan Wingnut picketers?
Post by: demosthenes on May 31, 2010, 12:02:05 PM
Quote from: The Troll on April 02, 2010, 01:05:20 PM
  Federal court order the dad of a marine killed Iraq to pay the court cost of the crazy Christains who picketed his son's funeral.  Your thoughts.
1. They're not Christians. They're the Westboro Baptist Church that spouts nothing but hatred and intolerance. If that is truly what you think Christians are, you need to get out more.

2. Provide a link to the case and then I'll throw my $0.02 at whether or not the dad should cough up.

From a right/wrong perspective, of course he shouldn't. From a legal/illegal perspective, well, you'll have to provide more info like I said.
Title: Re: Should dead Marine's dad pay $16,500 to Christan Wingnut picketers?
Post by: Palehorse on May 31, 2010, 12:07:30 PM
Quote from: LOsborne on May 31, 2010, 12:01:51 PM
I'm in. When do we leave?

Well, we know they aren't home today, but the sooner the better.  :yes:
Title: Re: Should dead Marine's dad pay $16,500 to Christan Wingnut picketers?
Post by: demosthenes on May 31, 2010, 12:11:26 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on May 31, 2010, 12:01:14 PM
Wonder how they'd feel about protestors showing up at their weekly prayer services and Sunday worship, with signs damning them to hell, calling them child molesters, and spewing accusations of zealotry?  :icon_twisted:
Actually, I'd be in for that, too. Try to entice one or more of them to smack you around so you can sue the crap out of them and make a bunch of money. That's been their m.o.

Goose. Gander. Do the math.
Title: Re: Should dead Marine's dad pay $16,500 to Christan Wingnut picketers?
Post by: Henry Hawk on June 01, 2010, 09:23:49 AM
Quote from: Palehorse on May 31, 2010, 12:01:14 PM
Wonder how they'd feel about protestors showing up at their weekly prayer services and Sunday worship, with signs damning them to hell, calling them child molesters, and spewing accusations of zealotry?  :icon_twisted:

now THAT is a GREAT idea.....I like it!!!... :yes:
Title: Re: Should dead Marine's dad pay $16,500 to Christan Wingnut picketers?
Post by: rotflmao on June 01, 2010, 11:56:01 AM
Quote from: Palehorse on May 31, 2010, 12:01:14 PM
Wonder how they'd feel about protestors showing up at their weekly prayer services and Sunday worship, with signs damning them to hell, calling them child molesters, and spewing accusations of zealotry?  :icon_twisted:
Probably  a lot of anxiety and it would grow into a fever pitch, whipped up by the big cheese Phelps. They may even get violent. 
Title: Re: Should dead Marine's dad pay $16,500 to Christan Wingnut picketers?
Post by: followsthewolf on June 01, 2010, 06:13:22 PM
We could only hope.