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Title: Religulous
Post by: Exterminator on October 15, 2009, 07:35:04 AM
"The irony of religion is that because of its power to divert man to destructive courses, the world could actually come to an end. The plain fact is, religion must die for mankind to live. The hour is getting very late to be able to indulge having key decisions made by religious people. By irrationalists, by those who would steer the ship of state not by a compass, but by the equivalent of reading the entrails of a chicken. George Bush prayed a lot about Iraq, but he didn't learn a lot about it. Faith means making a virtue out of not thinking. It's nothing to brag about. And those who preach faith, and enable and elevate it are intellectual slaveholders, keeping mankind in a bondage to fantasy and nonsense that has spawned and justified so much lunacy and destruction. Religion is dangerous because it allows human beings who don't have all the answers to think that they do. Most people would think it's wonderful when someone says, "I'm willing, Lord! I'll do whatever you want me to do!" Except that since there are no gods actually talking to us, that void is filled in by people with their own corruptions and limitations and agendas. And anyone who tells you they know, they just know what happens when you die, I promise you, you don't. How can I be so sure? Because I don't know, and you do not possess mental powers that I do not. The only appropriate attitude for man to have about the big questions is not the arrogant certitude that is the hallmark of religion, but doubt. Doubt is humble, and that's what man needs to be, considering that human history is just a litany of getting shit dead wrong. This is why rational people, anti-religionists, must end their timidity and come out of the closet and assert themselves. And those who consider themselves only moderately religious really need to look in the mirror and realize that the solace and comfort that religion brings you actually comes at a horrible price. If you belonged to a political party or a social club that was tied to as much bigotry, misogyny, homophobia, violence, and sheer ignorance as religion is, you'd resign in protest. To do otherwise is to be an enabler, a mafia wife, for the true devils of extremism that draw their legitimacy from the billions of their fellow travelers. If the world does come to an end here, or wherever, or if it limps into the future, decimated by the effects of religion-inspired nuclear terrorism, let's remember what the real problem was. That we learned how to precipitate mass death before we got past the neurological disorder of wishing for it. That's it. Grow up or die."
Title: Re: Religulous
Post by: Palehorse on October 15, 2009, 08:05:09 AM
 :headbang: Rock on dude! Well said!  :yes:
Title: Re: Religulous
Post by: Exterminator on October 15, 2009, 08:13:58 AM
Quote from: Palehorse on October 15, 2009, 08:05:09 AM
:headbang: Rock on dude! Well said!  :yes:

You'll have to give the credit to Bill Maher.  This closing speech in the movie, by the way, is interspersed with ridiculous comments from various religious zealots as well as imagery of the death and destruction religion has caused making it all the more compelling.  The movie is definitely worth seeing.
Title: Re: Religulous
Post by: Locutus on October 15, 2009, 09:48:03 AM
I saw this documentary and remember one of my favorite lines which is included above. 

Faith means making a virtue out of not thinking.

That one sentence speaks volumes. 
Title: Re: Religulous
Post by: Exterminator on October 15, 2009, 09:56:13 AM
Quote from: Locutus on October 15, 2009, 09:48:03 AM
I saw this documentary and remember one of my favorite lines which is included above. 

Faith means making a virtue out of not thinking.

That one sentence speaks volumes.

How interesting is that...I seized on that statement as well and actually stopped the movie and backed it up to listen to it again!
Title: Re: Religulous
Post by: Locutus on October 15, 2009, 10:07:38 AM
LOL!  I did the exact same thing. 

Great minds!
Title: Re: Religulous
Post by: Bo D on October 15, 2009, 10:20:07 AM
Quote from: Locutus on October 15, 2009, 09:48:03 AM

Faith means making a virtue out of not thinking.



That isn't so strange a concept, really.

In Zen meditation, we strive to "think about not-thinking" - to "quiet your mind."