http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/29/gop-senator-calls-inquiry-supressed-climate-change-report/?test=latestnews
And now for the truth...
This is not an EPA report but a report that contains no new information by an individual who is not a scientist and knows nothing about climatology. You've been exposed as an abject liar...again.
Quote from: Exterminator on June 30, 2009, 11:42:13 AM
And now for the truth...
This is not an EPA report but a report that contains no new information by an individual who is not a scientist and knows nothing about climatology. You've been exposed as an abject liar...again.
The truth is there for those who can read beyond Faux News headlines.
"Carlin, who is an economist -- not a scientist"
"he was not even part of the working group dealing with climate change in the first place. "
"The individual in question is not a scientist and was not part of the working group dealing with this issue. Nevertheless the document he submitted was reviewed by his peers and agency scientists, and information from that report was submitted by his manager to those responsible for developing the proposed endangerment finding. In fact, some ideas from that document are included and addressed in the endangerment finding."
Sounds like they let the poor little guy in on some meetings and then he went rogue on them.
Ya know, I just seen what this guy was talking about and it makes more scientific sense than you might think. He has shown why what they are saying makes no sense what so ever. He proved with their own graphs and information. Everyone believes Al Bore and he sure ain't no scientist.
me, how are either you or Carlin qualified to determine what makes "scientific sense"?
They took science when they were in school?
Probably about the same qualifications I have as being a grammar and spelling nazi. LOL!!!!
Well, let me see. If you see the evidence for and then the evidence, scientific I might add, that isn't allowed to be shown and there is only 1/10th of a degree in the last 100 yrs or so difference in the temps and there would be little or no difference made by spending all this money why even bother?
Something just occurred to me. Ya'll aren't scientist either but you're basing you're opinions on what you're being told without even bothering to check it out to see if what you're being told is right or get other opinions. This is going to cost a ton of money plus could end up with us having things rationed to us like electricity and gas so why should you just take it at face value and not check into it? And you're saying I'm the dumb one?????????? :rolleyes:
Quote from: me on June 30, 2009, 08:14:59 PM
Something just occurred to me. Ya'll aren't scientist either but you're basing you're opinions on what you're being told without even bothering to check it out to see if what you're being told is right or get other opinions.
EXACTLY!!! :yes: ;)
Quote from: me on June 30, 2009, 08:14:59 PM
Something just occurred to me. Ya'll aren't scientist either
No...but I can tell the difference between an economist and a scientist. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Bo D on July 01, 2009, 08:29:35 AM
No...but I can tell the difference between an economist and a scientist. :rolleyes:
and Al Gore is NOT a scientist, but that seemed okay for the liberal's to take his word as gold.... :rolleyes:
Quote from: me on June 30, 2009, 05:26:18 PM
Ya know, I just seen what this guy was talking about and it makes more scientific sense than you might think.
If it's all the same to you, I'll not be trusting the judgment over what does or does not make sense scientifically to someone who says, "I seen..."
Quote from: me on June 30, 2009, 08:14:59 PM
And you're saying I'm the dumb one??????????
Pretty much, yes.
Quote from: Exterminator on July 01, 2009, 09:04:55 AM
If it's all the same to you, I'll not be trusting the judgement over what does or does not make sense scientifically to someone who says, "I seen..."
He does have an undergraduate degree in physics from CalTech.......what did Al have? If it's all the same to you, I think I will trust the judgement of someone like this over ... some political hacks in washington.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 01, 2009, 09:02:46 AM
and Al Gore is NOT a scientist, but that seemed okay for the liberal's to take his word as gold.... :rolleyes:
I don't like Al Gore anymore than you do. But it wasn't his word I was taking. It was the word of the SCIENTISTS he and others quoted in raising the alarms.
Unlike that e-mail that you guys fell for a while back ...what was it? Something like "30,000 'Scientists' sign some sort of petition" ... the one with Edward Teller on the front page? Remember that one? Signatures of veterinarians, TV weathermen, etc.
Quote from: Bo D on July 01, 2009, 09:10:17 AM
I don't like Al Gore anymore than you do. But it wasn't his word I was taking. It was the word of the SCIENTISTS he and others quoted in raising the alarms.
That's far too logical. Henry only believes what Henry wants to believe. He is the antithesis of an open mind.
But...just because someone has an open mind....aren't they still going to believe what they want to believe? An open mind just means that you will hear what is said, and think about it. Doesn't, in the end, mean you will accept what you hear.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 01, 2009, 09:09:43 AM
He does have an undergraduate degree in physics from CalTech.......what did Al have? If it's all the same to you, I think I will trust the judgement of someone like this over ... some political hacks in washington.
Whoop de dooo... I have a degree in Computer Science.
And I can spell judgment.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 01, 2009, 09:09:43 AM
He does have an undergraduate degree in physics from CalTech.......what did Al have?
He studied Climate Science under Roger Revelle at Harvard.
LMAO! Someone just got punked. :biggrin:
Quote from: Bo D on July 01, 2009, 09:19:41 AM
He studied Climate Science under Roger Revelle at Harvard.
Studying and recieving and undergradutae degree ARE a little different....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 01, 2009, 09:48:46 AM
Studying and recieving and undergradutae degree ARE a little different....
Caltech and Harvard are a little different. Climate Science and physics are a little different.
Would you call your accountant to get the latest weather report?
Would you call the guy who reads the weather at your local radio station to get financial advice?
Quote from: Bo D on July 01, 2009, 09:15:53 AM
Whoop de dooo... I have a degree in Computer Science. And I can spell judgment.
Well Mr. Computer Science..... ;)
It is not a new problem; both spellings have trailed this word throughout history and all English-language dictionaries assure us that
both are acceptable. However, we are offering a reasoned resolution to the dilemma that allows us to spell all such words accurately and consistently, making our kids' task of learning the language just a bit easier.
We should use the "e" after "g" and "c" (e.g. "advancement" when they are are soft and omit it when they are hard (e.g. segment, pigment). By the way, we have William Shakespeare and all our British brethren on our side. Not bad company to keep.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 01, 2009, 09:55:19 AM
Well Mr. Computer Science..... ;)
It is not a new problem; both spellings have trailed this word throughout history and all English-language dictionaries assure us that both are acceptable. However, we are offering a reasoned resolution to the dilemma that allows us to spell all such words accurately and consistently, making our kids' task of learning the language just a bit easier. We should use the "e" after "g" and "c" (e.g. "advancement" when they are are soft and omit it when they are hard (e.g. segment, pigment). By the way, we have William Shakespeare and all our British brethren on our side. Not bad company to keep.
Maybe so ....
Now try and explain this .... :biggrin:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 01, 2009, 09:48:46 AM
Studying and recieving and undergradutae degree ARE a little different....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 01, 2009, 09:55:19 AM
Well Mr. Computer Science..... ;)
It is not a new problem; both spellings have trailed this word throughout history and all English-language dictionaries assure us that both are acceptable. However, we are offering a reasoned resolution to the dilemma that allows us to spell all such words accurately and consistently, making our kids' task of learning the language just a bit easier. We should use the "e" after "g" and "c" (e.g. "advancement" when they are are soft and omit it when they are hard (e.g. segment, pigment). By the way, we have William Shakespeare and all our British brethren on our side. Not bad company to keep.
You should really give credit to the original author if you're going to copy and paste someone else's work.
Quote from: Bo D on July 01, 2009, 09:53:25 AM
Caltech and Harvard are a little different. Climate Science and physics are a little different.
Would you call your accountant to get the latest weather report?
Would you call the guy who reads the weather at your local radio station to get financial advice?
No, but I would talk to a family doctor about my heart....one is more specialized, but both know a great deal about the heart....
physics explains how the world and universe behave...and they are qualified to make logical opinions on the topic of climate change....
Quote from: Exterminator on July 01, 2009, 10:05:18 AM
You should really give credit to the original author if you're going to copy and paste someone else's work.
oh, let me be clear...I am not the author of this, and I did copy and paste.....but the answer is very clear....
Let's not get side tracked with spelling here either.....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 01, 2009, 10:06:11 AM
No, but I would talk to a family doctor about my heart....one is more specialized, but both know a great deal about the heart....
This makes sense to me as I could understand your seeing a proctologist about a brain aneurysm. :razz:
Quotephysics explains how the world and universe behave...and they are qualified to make logical opinions on the topic of climate change....
Nice try but no.
I think they're diverting the subject again Henry. :wink:
Quote from: me on July 01, 2009, 10:57:37 AM
I think they're diverting the subject again Henry. :wink:
Not at all but discussing it with people who have no grasp of simple logical thought processes is pointless.
Quote from: me on July 01, 2009, 10:57:37 AM
I think they're diverting the subject again Henry. :wink:
It is true me.....they ALWAYS use their so-called superior knowledge as a means of not discussing or looking at the REAL truth...and tactics like pointing out spelling errors as a means to divert....yup.... :yes:
You wouldn't know the real truth if it bit you in the ass. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Exterminator on July 01, 2009, 11:47:01 AM
You wouldn't know the real truth if it bit you in the ass. :rolleyes:
Hey me, case and point.... ;)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 01, 2009, 11:55:14 AM
Hey me, case and point.... ;)
Keep grasping at straws, Henry.
Quote from: Exterminator on July 01, 2009, 11:59:07 AM
Keep grasping at straws, Henry.
How else are they going to keep constructing those straw men?
Quote from: Exterminator on July 01, 2009, 11:03:37 AM
Not at all but discussing it with people who have no grasp of simple logical thought processes is pointless.
Ah, we don't mind at all if you lack logic Henry and I will still discuss it with you.
:rolleyes: