Howdy! We had a marthas forum until wed.(yesterday) afternoon. Without any notice they just shut it down. Hope this does not happen to ya'll. Anyway howdy and have a good day.
just the most recent in a string of disappearing Martha's. Good riddance I say.
Indeed!
Oh???????
If you have any way of contacting your friends that used to post there, feel free to ask 'em to join us here. We'd love to have them. :yes:
Quote from: mcgonser on June 04, 2009, 04:25:36 PM
Oh???????
Let's just say they have a tendency to over react to things there. They either do not moderate / administrate at all, (usual), or they over moderate / administrate. And that's just the start.
Suffice to say that in the long run it is probably a good thing because you won't have to deal with the morons. Anderson IN had the same thing happen. . . a few times.
It's why a lot of us are here. Stable, fair and balanced moderation / administration, and folks that actually want to learn something once in awhile or have fun. Not to mention security that makes sense! :yes:
I am in contact with a few good ones from the forum. It was really weird, I was online that morning and it was gone by that afternoon. No warning or anything.
Yup! That's generally what happens with all of the prior shutdowns that I've seen over there.
Oh well, invite 'em all here. Come one, come all! The more the merrier.
It is I, refugee from Woodward with same old screen name. You mean no one will look at us like this anymore. :rant: hahhahahha
:welcome:
Hello mageepet and welcome to the Zone!
Thanks, I had visited over here a couple of times, but had been too lazy to sign up. Now, I had impetus to do so!
Good! Sometimes all it takes is impetus. :biggrin:
Quote from: mageepet on June 04, 2009, 07:26:21 PM
It is I, refugee from Woodward with same old screen name. You mean no one will look at us like this anymore. :rant: hahhahahha
Hello and welcome to the Unknown Zone! Hope to see (read) you around and enjoy yourself! :smile:
MADE IT!! :biggrin:
who hooo we are slowly getting here!
Welcome to all of you! ;D
I gotta work on that pic tho!
Seen2, there is myob II on here also.
Reporting for duty, McGonser 8)
How are you guys getting your avatar pics on there, I am just bumfuzzled.
I finally got it, say hello to ginger! ;D
Awwww I see you got Ginger kitty up. :smitten:
Yes, I am going to have to redo a window screen this weekend because i have that window open and ginger has been laying in it. He thinks I haven't noticed he is slowly tearing the screen out.
Sure glad to see you all here. I still want to know who ticked off the people that pulled the plug on Marthas. Come on fess up!! Love your avatars and its good to see ginger again.
Judge denies Morton's plea withdrawal
Rowynn Ricks
A judge has denied a motion to allow former Woodward County Sheriff Les Morton to withdraw his Alford plea and reinstate his trial rights.
Associate District Judge R. W. Collier denied the motion in a hearing held Thursday morning at the Woodward County Courthouse. The decision to deny the motion came more than four months after Morton originally entered the Alford plea on Jan. 12.
Through the Alford plea, the court was able to sentence Morton as if he was found guilty of nine counts of embezzlement without Morton actually admitting any guilt. The Oklahoma Office of the Attorney General charged Morton with embezzlement last year after they claimed that an indictment revealed that he had allegedly used a sheriff's vehicle and county fuelman card for personal use.
In the motion to withdraw his plea, Morton claimed that "persons in apparent authority unduly influenced (his) decision to enter the Alford Plea."
He then pointed to a conversation between himself and the judge in judge's chambers on Jan. 12, where he claimed in his motion that "Judge Collier strongly urged him to accept the plea offer because of the possibility of facing a long prison sentence if found guilty at trial."
During Thursday's hearing much discussion was had over that conversation between Morton and the judge.
Collier explained that he simply "took the liberty to express to the defendant prior to the preliminary hearing the court's concern that the defendant understand the potential risk of everything going wrong (at trial)."
"It is common knowledge that sheriffs don't fare well in the penal system in Oklahoma," he said.
Although admitting that it was "unusual circumstances" to call Morton, as the defendant, into chambers prior to the preliminary hearing, Collier also noted that he "has a hard time accepting that a sheriff with 30-plus years of experience is that intimidated by a judge."
But while he was on the stand during Thursday's hearing, Morton argued that being called into judge's chambers and having the judge talk to him about the consequences of incarceration was "something that completely threw (him) off guard."
"I'm sure that it was done with the intent of concern for me and my well-being, which I appreciate. However, that does, I don't care if it's me or whoever it is . . ., that does put a little undue pressure on you when you're brought into judges chambers regardless of the intent of the conversation," Morton said.
But Collier later stated that whatever influence or pressure his comments might have had on Morton had time to dissipate as an hour elapsed between the conversation and when Morton finally agreed to enter the plea after visiting with his attorney Mack Martin.
As she argued against Morton's motion to withdraw his plea, Joel-lyn McCormick, of the Attorney General's office, claimed "this defendant has utterly failed to show that his plea was entered involuntarily, unknowingly, and with duress."
"I believe the record is very clear in how the court very meticulously ensured the defendant understood his rights, was not making a hasty decision and was not being forced into making a decision," McCormick said.
In fact, as she cross-examined Morton during Thursday's hearing, she had Morton verify that while under oath on Jan. 12 he responded to the judge's questions of whether more time was needed to consider the plea by noting that he wanted to enter the plea that day.
Collier agreed, noting "he clearly expressed his intent at that time . . . that he wanted to enter a plea at that time."
"It will be the finding of the court that the defendant was competent and he was not under the undue influence of the court's conversation with him," the judge said before officially denying the motion.
Almost immediately after Collier announced his decision, Martin announced to the judge his intent to appeal.
However, after talking with Morton following the hearing, Martin said that he and his client plan "to give thought and discussion to whether or not we intend to appeal."
"We disagree with the ruling of the court," he said. "But we don't know whether or not we'll appeal it because the timing is such that the deferred judgment (that accompanied the Jan. 12 plea agreement) has now expired."
The defense attorney said that because the deferred sentence has been completed as of March 28, which was one year after he was initially indicted, Morton now has the opportunity to seek "the dismissal of that case and the expungement of those records."
"We don't know if we want to do that or if we would rather have our day in court," Martin said, noting that although Morton "has maintained his innocence," to appeal is "a very long process."
Morton and Martin have 10 days to decide whether they want to appeal the decision.
McCormick said she hopes Morton does not appeal.
"It's our hope that this defendant not be allowed to play upon judicial economy any longer and that we be allowed to move forward in Woodward County," she said.
Quote from: mcgonser on June 04, 2009, 11:30:23 PM
Sure glad to see you all here. I still want to know who ticked off the people that pulled the plug on Marthas. Come on fess up!! Love your avatars and its good to see ginger again.
The Venom Gang of course! But that's only my opinion. :D
;D I think you are right!!
There's one (or more) in every crowd :biggrin:
Years ago, our local Martha forum was closed and I made the Zone my home and haven't looked back.
I hope that you guys love it here as much as I do. :yes:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 05, 2009, 09:49:22 AM
There's one (or more) in every crowd :biggrin:
Years ago, our local Martha forum was closed and I made the Zone my home and haven't looked back.
I hope that you guys love it here as much as I do. :yes:
I think once I get used to getting from point A to point B with least amount of effort, it will the perfect place for me!
OK, walk me thru it. I am trying to change my avatar and forgot how. Help!
Well, I am home for awhile now, having went to work two hours early. I must keep my hours under forty and still be there to lock up tonite, soooooo I get a really long break in the middle of the day.
oK, walk me thru how to change my avatar. Please :smile:
do you have it in photobucket resized down to like 100x75
On this page got to profile , it is up at the top, then to modify profile and you should get a window up that shows you several option to do for you avatar. If you are using photobucket use the second one and then use the http encoding for it rather than the img one we use to post pics. Be sure and mark save changes at the bottom of the page on the modify profile page when done.
I didn't do good with the directions but maybe you can get the idea.
Quote from: mcgonser on June 05, 2009, 11:22:30 AM
oK, walk me thru how to change my avatar. Please :smile:
http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=13605.new#new
:wink:
By jove I think I got it, finally. Thanks everyone for your help.
A very beautiful orange cat there on your avatar, it could be Ginger's sister! :spooked:
Since I don't take the ww paper I need to ask a favor. When the family from colorado runs their ad that they will be at the sale barn with peaches, please let me know. Those are the biggest, juciest peaches ever. Yum Yum! You could even get a fresh peach pie for a thank you.
I will watch the paper and tell MIL. She usually sees it before I do and then she lets me know. I like to make peach jam out of them. And of course eat them ;)
hi everyone I finally found my way over here thanks to Seen2much ;D
I saw earlier you had registered, muggy. Welcome to our new world! You don't have to type asteriks in place of letter if you say something ugly here!
:welcome: :welcome2: Hey Muggy
Quote from: seen2much on June 04, 2009, 09:14:39 PM
MADE IT!! :biggrin:
Thank you for telling me how to get here
Hi Muggy! Welcome!
I'm home and I'm glad to see Muggy made it. :)
I also had the pleasure of meeting her in person at the townwide garage sale.
And yet, more garage sales, I have missed.
Thank you all for making me feel so welcome here you gals are the greatest
You just caught us on a nice day!