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Title: rickers and beer
Post by: News1 on January 04, 2009, 11:37:18 AM
Ricker's liquor license hearing set for Monday
 



ANDERSON - For a third time, the Madison County Alcoholic Beverage Board is expected to hold a public hearing on a request for 11 new beer and wine licenses for Ricker Oil Co. on Monday.
 
 


http://www.theheraldbulletin.com/local/local_story_003213117.html
 
Title: Re: Ricker's liquor license hearing set for Monday
Post by: DannyBoy on January 04, 2009, 10:51:42 PM
Another great draw for promoting Anderson.....#1 in liquor licences per capita.  WaHoo!!!
Title: Re: Ricker's liquor license hearing set for Monday
Post by: busymom23 on January 05, 2009, 09:25:59 PM
unfortunately he got the license
Title: Re: Ricker's liquor license hearing set for Monday
Post by: Ghost of Jaco on January 06, 2009, 11:10:30 AM
That d@mn Jay Ricker! FORCING people to buy alcohol and consume it!
Title: rickers and beer
Post by: thejudge on January 06, 2009, 07:20:58 PM
hope jay ricker has a good lawyer when a under age teen comes into buy gas @$1.99 now and beer and goes out and injures or even worse kills someone........ :rant: >:(
Title: Re: rickers and beer
Post by: me on January 06, 2009, 07:50:28 PM
Why do you think something like that would happen any quicker in Ricker's than it would in a grocery store?  I understand what you're saying but other places have convenience stores which carry beer and wine and they don't have a problem. 
Title: Re: rickers and beer
Post by: Palehorse on January 06, 2009, 08:46:01 PM
Quote from: thejudge on January 06, 2009, 07:20:58 PM
hope jay ricker has a good lawyer when a under age teen comes into buy gas @$1.99 now and beer and goes out and injures or even worse kills someone........ :rant: >:(

While there is no doubt that underage drinking is an ongoing problem in this country, I'm just wondering how they (Ricker's Inc.) intend to sell the stuff? I mean, most of the time when I go into one of these stations/stores, they are crewed by under age staff and we all know the problem that situation represents.

Certainly there is an increased liability associated in taking on the task of becoming a licensed booze dispenser. Your point is a good one though and begs the question: How can a state that will not allow the sale of booze on Sundays, allow it to be sold in an establishment meant to service the motoring public? Isn't that kind of like encouraging folks to drink and drive????  :confused: More than a bit contradictory eh?
Title: Re: rickers and beer
Post by: me on January 06, 2009, 08:54:10 PM
I would hope they would figure out a way to keep it behind the counter and have someone of age there at all times to monitor the sales and ring them up. 
As far as selling to the motoring public I think carry outs fit that description also even though they don't sell gas. 
I'm not really arguing that I am all for it I'm just saying I don't understand how its any worse in a convenience store than it is in a grocery store, drugstore, or carry out is all.  I know under aged aren't allowed in carry outs but I included that because of the motoring part of it. 
Title: Re: rickers and beer
Post by: Palehorse on January 06, 2009, 09:16:51 PM
Quote from: me on January 06, 2009, 08:54:10 PM
I would hope they would figure out a way to keep it behind the counter and have someone of age there at all times to monitor the sales and ring them up. 
As far as selling to the motoring public I think carry outs fit that description also even though they don't sell gas. 
I'm not really arguing that I am all for it I'm just saying I don't understand how its any worse in a convenience store than it is in a grocery store, drugstore, or carry out is all.  I know under aged aren't allowed in carry outs but I included that because of the motoring part of it. 

Yes, however society has conditioned us to subliminally understand that going to the gas station is for getting gas. The proprietors of these stations figured out how easy it was to take advantage of impulse buying and started selling convenience items, which was a huge jackpot for them. So much so that the franchise owners of some major oil companies found themselves forced out when the big oil companies developed a means with which to get them to give up their franchises; expand to "x" amount of square feet and pay for it on your own, and cut them in on the profits for all non gasoline sales, or give up your franchise.

I know because a good friend of my father's owned a chain of Standard Oil stations and he was subjected to just that tactic at each one of his highly successful stations. (Like Rickers)
He gave up his franchises and turned over half the properties to Standard oil; keeping the other half and turning them into auto repair businesses (which my brother worked at) and tractor parking for his fleet of semi's.

Anyway. . . This in some states has turned toward the sale of booze in these franchised stations. And while carryout may be the stated intent I can tell you that in just about every one of these establishments I have been to out of state, they sell it just like pop too; by the can/bottle. (Increased profit levels.)

And 1/2 pints and pints of booze are VERY popular in these places too. Now how likely is it that someone is going to purchase a half pint of blackberry brandy on a chilled evening, and wait until they get home to crack the cap and have a pull or two?? Adult or underaged. Combine that with the availability of some fresh fountain mixers, and odds are they'll frequently buy the half pint and a pop or two, and mix their own while they motor their happy rear ends down the road.

Ricker has seen this for himself I am sure, (about the profits to be obtained via the sales of booze), and seeing how we are sliding head long toward the hard times of yesteryear, he's banking on the sales of booze increasing exponentially as the times get harder. That way he can stay fat and happy.
Title: Re: rickers and beer
Post by: me on January 06, 2009, 09:22:15 PM
That does cause some cause for concern, the availability of mixers, that I hadn't considered.  I'm sure though that if he sees it being a problem he would pull out of selling it, at least I'd like to think he would.
Title: Re: rickers and beer
Post by: DannyBoy on January 06, 2009, 10:13:54 PM
People that are "drinking while driving" are already stopping at the kegnbottle to get what they want.  This should not have much impact on that scenario.
Title: Re: rickers and beer
Post by: Locutus on January 07, 2009, 01:35:45 AM
What was the outcome of the hearing as indicated in the HB article?  Does anyone know?
Title: Re: Ricker's liquor license hearing set for Monday
Post by: me on January 07, 2009, 05:49:34 AM
According to this post he did get it.

Quote from: busymom23 on January 05, 2009, 09:25:59 PM
unfortunately he got the license
Title: Re: rickers and beer
Post by: Henry Hawk on January 07, 2009, 09:20:04 AM
I really don't see anymore of a problem for Rickers than any other liquor store....I personal don't like to see it happen, I think Rickers has a good thing going right now...and might be biting off more than he can chew....but we will see.  I think people go to Rickers for the fountain drinks as much as they go for the gas.